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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - bonnet release cable - end route

has anyone got a photo or knows how the bonnet release cable runs just before it attaches to the the catch please

I thought there was a hole in the panel at the side of the radiator shroud but mine hasn't got one
Nigel Atkins

Is it not in manual LOL
sorry could not resist it
mark 1500 on the road Preston Lancs

Give me a few minutes ... im out the door in 15 min. And I can photo it at the shop... im sure it will be the same here in the usa as in the uk..but will try

Prop
Prop and the Blackhole Midget

Nigel here's a couple of pics from a 74 car
Hope they help
Dave

D Pratt

And through the front valance

D Pratt

Nigel I'm not sure it is original as the second one seems to pull up in the air maybe the grommets that are missing would help, but that's how it came to me.
D Pratt

Mark,
which manual, do you mean the Workshop Manual or perhaps the Haynes manual?
Nigel Atkins

Dave,
thanks for the photos

I have the hole in the first photo (yes with reducing grommet) but I don't have the hole in the other panel (again there'd be a reducing grommet and a P-clip near the bonnet catch hole, Iíve not got the P-clip either)

my cable goes through a grommet that fills one of the access holes to the rad shroud hex screw head but as itís worked fine it can stop there, I just wondered if I could tidy it up whilst I was there
Nigel Atkins

Nigel - archive search is your friend, we've done this one before. There is a tiny hole in the side of the front end assembly, it traps the cable outer and is just large enough for the inner.
David Smith

What David said.
Dave O'Neill 2

Nigel found it see the arrow

D Pratt

Thanks David and Dave but Archive search is out for me at the moment as I put elsewhere my internet connection is up and down more than a whore's draws on a Friday night - will be until at least Wednesday PM
Nigel Atkins

Dave P,
that's the one I was thinking of but I still didn't see it, I'll have to get my magnifying glass out or a bit of muck could be blocking it
Nigel Atkins

Sorry nigel

Im not going to be able.to help you, apperantly at some point I decide to hide the cable from view and I did a really good job of that

I cant find any trace of the bonnet cable anywhere its completely hidden from view, other then the little knob on the inside

Prop
Prop and the Blackhole Midget

rocks, lost another post there because of my internet connection

Prop,
thanks for looking but see Dave P's photo
Nigel Atkins

Sorry nigel,

Nothing like like dave P.

Mine is all completely out of view, I cant even find where it comes out of the firewall...the only portion I can find is about 2 inches where it connect to the cup that the bonnet spike/ pin slips into

Prop
Prop and the Blackhole Midget

Sorry nigel,

Nothing like like dave P.

Mine is all completely out of view, I cant even find where it comes out of the firewall...the only portion I can find is about 2 inches where it connect to the cup that the bonnet spike/ pin slips into

Prop
temporary DAVE and the Blackhole Midget

You should be able to see here, without any rust to obscure the view!

The photo is taken inside the front wheel arch, cable runs right towards the footwell. The sheath terminates at the the radiator support, the inner continuing to the bonnet catch, which I then secured with a 10-32 screw, and passed back around itself before seating in a second trunnion (see next photo). No way that is coming adrift!

dominic clancy

The trunnion is the only reused fastener on the car, as I didn't have another one available when I was doing this bit and you can't see it without a camera under the slam panel anyway.

dominic clancy

And as I was taking photos I did this one of the finished engine bay too. We are just waiting for a safety test appointment from the Kanton to get this driving, but as it's been raining cats and dogs here this week, and the top still hasn't arrived, we are in no hurry



dominic clancy

Very nice job Dominic, the only giveaway that it's not all original is the routing of the water temp capillary.
David Smith

Dominic,
thanks for photos, as you say a lot easier to see when everything is clean and not black

don't worry about it but you might be missing a P-clip near the bonnet catch hole

my cable has two trunions one larger than the other side by side

mine definitely doesn't have the tiny hole for the inner cable and I've no tiny drill bits left so it'll go back as was as it's been fine for the last seven years and does show signs of wear

David,
what about the slam panel
Nigel Atkins

" --- the only giveaway that it's not all original is the routing of the water temp capillary."

I've often wondered what the "correct" route is for the water temp capillary.

On my '73 midget, it was just routed from the head, under the HT leads, collected in a big coil beside the heater blower box, and shoved through the bulkhead. It didn't look right to me, and anyway it was broken. So now it's off awaiting a cheap replacement.

On my '66 Sprite, it leaves the head, in a double coil to the right hand inner wing, then runs along with the loom, along the side(engine) of the pedal box, under the blower an through to the dash. Been in for yonks and not broken. And that's how it was when I got it in 1977.

So which is correct, or are neither?
Lawrence Slater

For a cheap dual gauge replacement look at Leacy, they have them for half the price of the other vendors .

Thanks too for the compliments. I installed the gauge tube much like Lawrence, but ther is quite a spiral against the inner wing to take up the excessive length. I had a Jaeger gauge that I thing was for an MGA, but have swapped the face for a Smiths one with Mark Hester who owns the prototype mga twin cam.

To make the spiral neat I just wound it around the handle of a large screwdriver before I attached the P clip to the inner wing.

dominic clancy

Apologies to Dominic, he is correct. On the early cars where the take-off is in the rad upper tank, the inner wing route is correct (Horler p.59 & 81).
On later cars where it comes off the head, it loops around on top of the dynamo or alternator, runs along the head level with the gasket, turns left across to the body next to the solenoid with a couple of coils to avoid stress of engine movement, and runs under the heater blower and into the bulkhead. There are locating clips on the rear alternator mount and also on a bracket hung off a heater tap stud.
David Smith

Does anyone know when they moved the sender from the rad to the head?

Was it prior to the introduction of the crossflow rad, or at the same time?
Dave O'Neill 2

I know when I moved mine from the rad to the head. It was when I broke the one in the rad trying to remove it. lol.

Since then I've stuck to the route along the inner wing.

Why on earth did they deliberately run the temp tube along the head? Was it originally clamped to the side of the head in some way? Before I established the tube had leaked, and removed the broken one from the Midget, I found the bloody tube to be a nuisance around the HT leads. When I get the replacement, I'll run it along the inner wing. A future owner can slag me off, and run it wherever he likes. lol.
Lawrence Slater

I described the two mounting points on the engine just 2 posts ago!
David Smith

So you did. :).

Stupid route to run the thing anyway. Just gets in the way, and begs to get broken. Much better on the inner wing.
Lawrence Slater

I did post some photos of the route/brackets in the past.

I can't seem to find them in my library, for some reason.
Dave O'Neill 2

Whoops, forgot the pic. See next post.
Lawrence Slater

Was it like these Dave?

Guess which one was mine, when I bought it.



Lawrence Slater

Yep. that's it. Actually yours is more accurate at the start, the loop over the alternator.
David Smith

Ah, so the one of the 'mechanics' who used to work on it for the last owner, must have discarded/lost the clips then. I still don't like that route though.

This car is quite interesting actually. Apart from it being covered in bloody zieabart, and having a few missing items, it's generally pretty original and complete. -- Well it was until I got hold of it. lol.
Lawrence Slater

This thread was discussed between 21/07/2014 and 28/07/2014

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