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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - Oil Filter

Searched the archives with no success. Can anyone tell me if the oil filter for a Marina 1275 engine is the same as a 1275 midget?
Pete Ottewell

Pete,
according to this link below no it's not the same, (I think also it's in a different location on a Morris Marina

the link quotes CHAMPION D102 and UNIPART GFE442

whereas I have the Spridget as Champion 103 and Unipart GFE443 (and GFE148)

but you might want to cross reference the information given in the link and mine

link - http://www.aseriesspares.co.uk/oil-filters/morris-marina-1-3-unipart-spin-on-oil-filter/prod_1090.html
Nigel Atkins

I would imagine that the Marina filter has a valve to stop oil draining back, as it points upwards at an angle.
Dave O'Neill2

I got timed out by Dave's post

ETA: I've got a feeling the fitting thread is the same for them all and it's just the length that varies but I could be wrong - which would be yes then, "confused, you soon will be"

the fabulous world of matching part number and different descriptions and different code numbers of the same part and same car

in the first cross reference I done it showed the Boscsh one fitting MG ????>??
Nigel Atkins

Depends on what engine you have fitted. Many engine re-builds use the Marina block with the screw on filter below the distributor and this takes takes the Marina filter. Guess how I know?
Peter B

Pete
I've got the same problem
Changed my 1275 midget engine to 1275 marina -ital engine.(don't ask why)
Oil filters are not the same
1275 marina -ital engine has a 5/8 16 tread
GFE150 unipart is the correct oil filter (there are other like MANN-FRAM..... but don't know the numbers)
regards
Raf
rv raf

I'm not saying rv raf is wrong because I don't know if he is or not but GFE150 in UK shows as a Triumph filter so for the Midget 1500s
Nigel Atkins

A Series Spares lists it as a GFE442 which they also have listed for the 1500 Midget. They must be an alternative to GFE150. GFE150 is listed by the MGOC for the 1500. Very confusing....
Pete Ottewell

Hi, I had a spare filter left over from my Marina engined Morris Minor, it is not the same. As Dave O'Neill rightly comments, it has an anti-drain valve as it is inverted.
Dom
Dominic Excell

Peter,
does your filter point up or hang down?

Dom,
what's the make and model of your inverted, anti-drain oil filter please?

comparing manufactures and retailers catalogues is a nightmare

the last filters I got (for my ’73 1275) from MGOC Spares were GFE148 replacing GFE166 – they came in a box and are marker up as Unipart GFE 443 – I’d guess these were very old stock purchased as a buy up of old stock by MGOC Spares
Nigel Atkins

Nigel,
the marina engine has the oilfilter pointed up (left side above the distributer)
My old GFE150 unipart filter was mouted on the engine I installed, and indeed hase no anti drain valve
If the oil filter is pionted upwards ,does it need an anti drain valve? If so , then the GFE150 unipart was wrongly installed on my engine.
regards raf
rv raf

Points up next to the dizzy. It's definitely a recon Marina engine that's been put in at sometime, judging by the history probably in the early 2000s. I've ordered a GFE442 from A Series Spares, so I'll see what turns up and if it fits. Won't be for a couple of weeks as I intend to change the oil when I replace the Timing Chain Cover. This probably is the reason behind the infamous dodgy breather set up.
Pete Ottewell

Nigel, It's a Fram (EU made) PH2869. I bought it from Leadbetters Morris Minor parts in Chorley, sold for the Marina engine. If anyone wants it they can have it for £3 plus postage at cost.
Dominic Excell

Pete,
you’ve ordered the right one confirmed by Raf and Dom

Raf,
I never put that you were wrong as I didn't know I was just pointing out the GFE150 was listed as for the Midget 1500 so giving Pete an easy source and reference for it, these comparisons on parts using manufacturers and retailers lists and databases is so hard because they use different reference codes to each other

I’m not mechanically minded but Dave and Dom have put what I thought that it should have an anti-drain and according to this site at least the GFE150 equivalent it sells has a ‘none return valve in base’ – http://www.sportscarsupplies.com/oil-filter-spitfire-1300-1500-dolomite-herald-gfe150-390-p.asp

so you had the right filter and it had an anti-drain valve, 5/8” 16 (or 18) – http://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13670

Nigel Atkins

Yes, I agree with all that's been said. My filter points up and I use GFE 150 or equivalent from other manufacturers. I also agree that it does need an anti-drain valve if pointing upwards, otherwise the oil in the filter housing will drain back into the sump when engine's not running.
Peter B

Fitted the oil filter bought from A Series spares, seems to be ok.
Pete Ottewell

This thread was discussed between 05/03/2013 and 29/03/2013

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