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MG MGA - Coupe owners / three questions

On the doors, where the chrome window frame meets the door metal (under the vent window)....What type of gasket or sealer goes there?

Moss shows two parts..# 282-225 & # 282-245 which are called rubber pads and are supposed to mount,on the inside edge (where the door seal would be attached) at the upper portion of the metal where the body meets the roof..... Does anyone have these on their car?

On the same inside edge, from the inside rocker panel cover to the top of the hinge area (again where the door seal would mount) are two rubber strips,about two feet long......Are these mounted there in place of the regular door rubber/felt seal?

PS: While working on my doors (late into the night) I threaded one of the screws that mounts the straight, vertical chrome vent window bar to the main window frame. Guess what, a replacement is availbe simply by using a regular wall plug or switch plate screw. They are even available in chrome . Any hardware store has them.And there are about three of these scrwes on each window frame
Gordon Harrison

Hi

Answere 1 I think I used black body sealer

Answere 2 I haven't got access to those numbers, but I think it is a small wedge shaped piece, I used some neoprene type material and trimmed it to size.

Answere 3 These are extra seals that fix to the 'B' post. I used some 'L' shaped rubber strips. They help stop wind noise and water ingress, mine seem to work regarding the water ingress, not so sure about the wind noise!!

Thanks for the screw tip

Regards Terry
Terry Drinkwater

Gordon:

I don't think I have any of those gaskets on my coupe. However, mine is a 1957 1500 body. These gaskets may have been introduced later, on the 1600 coupes. It's also possible that these gaskets were omitted during a previous restoration of my car. For example, my car has one 1500-style headlamp bucket and one 1600-style bucket, so it's not all original.

Regards,
M.D.
'57 Coupe
M. D.

Terry,
I am of your opinion that some sort of sealer was used. I find a hard white powdery substance here and there on the base of the window frame. So therefore I will rule out a gasket and use a sealer.

MD.
Mine is an early 57 1500 Coupe also and the B-post rubber seals, I actually have. They rise up the post and foloow the curve to about the height of the dash. They are black and simply press onto the metal edge ,just like the rubber felt seal does.The other pads sit right in the area,at the top of the B-post and are curved and shaped like that area. they are abount the width of the doors inside area. lets asy 6 inches tall by 4 inches wide and curved. These I do not have.

As for the two foot long rubber seals , could they be an early application that was later changed to the complete door seal rubber felt.
Gordon Harrison

I recall that MacGregor in Canada used to offer some of these seals. However, I will never order from MacGregor again after a bad experience I had with them.

Regards,
M.D.
'57 Coupe
M. D.

Gordon, I've just removed my side vent windows from my coupe doors and there was only a hardened black sealant between the vent window and the top of the door. In fact it was so hard I had to virtually grind it off.

No idea on the other two questions.

Andy 1960 MGA Coupe
Andy Preston

Gordon:

You’re right about the need for sealant; it was originally body caulking strip of the “100 percent solids” variety and sticky enough to be used on vertical surfaces. It needs to be applied underneath the vent window frame but also behind the metal trim strip along the door tops, to stop rainwater gathering in the void. Andy’s car seems to have had the remains of the right stuff, which was available commercially here for a long time as ‘3M Black Non-setting Body Caulking Strip’. Perhaps you can still get it in Canada?

As for the additional weather seals; there was a thread about these some time ago. A knowledgeable Canadian poster explained that they were only fitted as and where necessary; if the car didn’t leak, then they weren’t there. Made sense to me; my first Coupe - a Mark II - had none but my present 1600 had the full set. Guess why!

Alex
A. W. Risk

Andy
Thats what I found. I said mine was white but that was some oxidation of road salts when the car was driven in the winter. The actual sealer was hard and black and had to be removed with a scraper. I do know that there is a black caulking type sealer, available in a tube like housing caulking, but that it is strictly used for automotive. I will try and find the name.

Mr Risk,
As the second owner of my Coupe (one of the early editions) I cannot determine if the seals were there because the car was leaking or if they were a standard seal. My problem lies in weather to reinstall the rubber seals and then complete the door seals with rubber/felt or use a complete felt / rubber seal on the complete door area. everything so far seems to indicate that theses seals may have started use with the 1600 production model.
Gordon Harrison

Gordon:

Quick reply before resuming the daily grind.

It's not an 'either or' choice you're facing; the seals don't replace the Furflex - they are additional, used only where body alignments make them necessary.

Will go into more detail later. HTH.

Alex
A. W. Risk

Gordon:

You might be interested in this:

http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=archiveth&archiveyear=6_2004.dat&access=&subject=6&subjectar=6&source=T&thread=200404021604173640

and the thread referred to is here:

http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=archiveth&archiveyear=6_2004.dat&access=41766283500099&subject=6&subjectar=6&source=T&thread=2004031418272127574

Alex
A. W. Risk

Mr. Risk
Thank you for the info. This matter is getting more and more 'illuminating" with all of the current details. My one question to you is ...you said it is not "either or" regarding the seal. Therefore we are talking about installing a rubber seal AND a Furlex seal on the same B-post upright. This is the part that confuses me. How do I attach both seals to one metal edge? Thank you.
Gordon Harrison

This thread was discussed between 25/04/2006 and 29/04/2006

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