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MG MGB Technical - Unidentified part!
| I sent a load of parts for powder coating, but cannot identify this one!! Can anyone help? I dont seem to be missing anything. Nuts are threaded 1/4 UNF. Colin   |
| Colin Parkinson |
| Colin, Is it the rear fixing bracket for the alternator? Cheers,Charles |
| Charles9 |
Not that, 12H2517 attached. With 1/4" screws it's not going to carry much weight or force. I'm guessing Chris B will know.
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| paulh4 |
| Do you have a type D overdrive gearbox? |
| Chris at Octarine Services |
| Is it the stiffener, part no AHH6163 that goes inside the pedal box ? (i found that in an old parts catalogue MGL 0003B). Cheers, Charles |
| Charles9 |
| Charles no it is not the pedal box bracket. Chris, no have never had the early overdrive Colin |
| Colin Parkinson |
| That stiffener was my first thought, but only has holes on one side, no nuts. Maybe it's not even yours, and some other customer is thinking "Now where's that damn bracket ..." |
| paulh4 |
| I have some of those brackets but can't remember whether they came from inside or not or even if they are MGB or midget! |
| Chris at Octarine Services |
| Chris I have never done a midget. Paul hmm, you may have a point....... |
| Colin Parkinson |
| I'm sure I've seen something with those stiffening dents in the angle. If there's only one of them then the possibilities are limited. Ditto if there are two ... but then again there might be two and one has got lost ... |
| paulh4 |
| Looks too modern for an MG being pressed like that. I've seen several similar brackets on Japanese cars where they move, relocate things like fuel filters etc on different models and around steering columns for mounting brackets as well, but the 1/4" unf is a bit of a snag there---------------they'd be metric. |
| William Revit |
| Never seen one on my B, nor Midgets. |
| Dave O'Neill 2 |
| Could it have been a spare universal bracket from a brake booster kit, I think the later vh44's had a 90 deg bracket like that on minis and probably others |
| William Revit |
| The dents in the corner are known as bird beaks. I think they are a relatively new inovation. I wouldnt have thought they go back as far as B's and Midgets. Is it off another Austin Rover product. |
| Paul Hollingworth |
| Paul AFAIK the bonnet support brackets always had those 'dents'.  |
| Dave O'Neill 2 |
| Willie, you may be right with that. It had an aftermarket servo on the donor car. I'll check it out. Colin |
| Colin Parkinson |
| Both my 73 and 75 have welded stay brackets without the 'beaks', and that bracket is a bit of puzzle. The Parts Catalogue indicates that bracket BHH1934 (as pictured by Dave) was used with a later steel bonnet HZA4014 prior to the 1977 model year (can't find a reference in Clausager), and a V8 Register article says (paraphrased) the following:
The brackets were welded to the bonnet by the manufacturer, but when the bonnets were stacked one on top of the other it damaged the one underneath. So it was deleted at manufacture, for installation when the bonnet was fitted to the car, and goes on to say that it was V8 bonnets that had the problem. But series production of the V8 didn't start until April 1973, whereas two suppliers list this bracket as being for 1970 on which ties in with the change of the bonnet from alloy to steel, and another says for 1971 on. Not that any of that helps to identify the mystery object. |
| paulh4 |
| Moss Europe show them without the beak, Brown & Gammons say that part is the lower bracket ... and both my lower brackets are beaked! So it doesn't look like a modern innovation. |
| paulh4 |
| Midgets had beaks, also. |
| Dave O'Neill 2 |
| Horn bracket maybe? |
| Allan Reeling |
They are 'triangular', like the stay brackets.
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| paulh4 |
| I am beginning to think it is not mine! |
| Colin Parkinson |
| No no no -- it's your duty to identify it Colin Actually ,haven't asked this How long is it and how far between the boltholes |
| William Revit |
| Willie, Damn, I thought I was going to get away with it! 4 1/4 ins long, 3 1/4 ins between centres of the nuts. It does just about fit on the studs of the old servo, but doesnt make any sense there. Colin |
| Colin Parkinson |
| There are pairs of holes in my slam panel at that hole spacing. But I've been though the whole Moss catalogue and can't find anything which matches. Those brackets just look naggingly familiar though. Just a thought, didn't early B's have the horns hanging from the slam panel? |
| Allan Reeling |
| How early? My ‘67 has the triangular brackets bolted through the inner wings. |
| Dave O'Neill 2 |
| You know what, if we wearnt all locked down, nobody would be interested in my little bracket!! Colin |
| Colin Parkinson |
Horn(s) were on the slam panel to begin with but using much the same 'triangular' bracket without the right-angle bend.
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| paulh4 |
| Give in on that Dave. It will give me something to do for the rest of the day, now dog walk is over. I did though work on a R/b which had dome top horns bolted to the inner wings but outside in the wheel arch!!! |
| Allan Reeling |
| According to Clausager the horn position was changed from a vertical mounting on the slam panel to horizontal on flitch, Jan'63. |
| Allan Reeling |
| Allan, As you say, the dome top horns were bolted to the inner wings on the R/B cars.They were clamped using the brackets 2nd & 4th in the photo above & as per Paul's diagram of 5th April. That's said I'm sure i have seen the bracket that is the subject of this thread somewhere..... but as Colin says would we really be bothered if it wasn't for lockdown!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers,Charles  |
| Charles9 |
| On another forum a few years back someone wanted an item identifying and it looked very familiar to me but I didn't recognise it or could pin it down in my mind, too straight for a door handle I thought. A few days later someone else correctly said it was the backrake adjusting lever on the side of a a Midget seat, an item I see every time I get into my Midget. I thought it looked familiar! I've no idea about the mystery item - but it could well be fitted on my Midget for all I'd notice. |
| Nigel Atkins |
| Colin, just look on it as a bonus inclusion. Then you can while away many happy hours of "lockdown" finding a use for it. That 3 1/4" spacing seems to be a common one!! |
| Allan Reeling |
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