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MG MGF Technical - *** TYRE SURVEY 2 *** The good, the bad & the ugly
| It has been 5 years since the last BBS tyre survey - and in that time, some great tyres have come and gone. Thankfully, some truely dire tyres have also been consigned to the great tyre dump in the sky too - but what are the best tyres for the MGF and TF? I think it is time to get a new list of 'approved' BBS tyres, and those to be avoided like the plague! Form as below: Tyre survey: MG Model (F or TF): Wheel size: Profile- Front: Profile- Rear: Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): Subjective comments: Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Even if the tyre you use is already listed, please return your thoughts! Here are the four tyres I have had direct experience with: MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear NCT-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 5 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry, occasionally scarey in the wet. Good ride and wear. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- good dry grib and superb wet grip. Ride good too! Feedback not the best though - my impression is that the side walls are too flexible. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Somewhere in the West Midlands ;o) Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- good dry grib and superb wet grip. Ride remains good. Feedback better than the previous generation tyre, but still no competitor for the Bridgestone S-02 IMO. But the side walls are a good deal stiffer than the GS-D2. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Micheldever Station Model: F Tyre survey: Bridgestone S-02 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 10 Subjective comments: Superb in wet or dry. Superb communication. Very progressive at the limits of adhesion. Cost(optional): around 300 quid fitted Bought from(optional): Micheldever Station |
| Rob Bell |
| Should you have a Availability Section there Rob? S02's for instance are as far as I am aware, not available any more ? Stu |
| Stu Dickens |
Model: F Tyre survey: Bridgestone RE 720 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Superb in the dry, but not so confident with them in the wet. Previous tyres were GS-D2's and I can certainly feel the difference Cost(optional): around 250 quid fitted Bought from(optional): Micheldever Station Stu |
| Stu Dickens |
| Model: F Tyre survey: Avon ZV3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- F 185/55 Profile- R 205/50 Rating: 7 Superb in dry, not bad in wet but being RWD treated with respect! Around £300 fitted, balanced, new valves and tracking. Previously fitted with budget tyres by supplying retailer. Bought from NTS in Wallasey.....V Good people. Tony |
| Tony Harrison |
| MG Model (F or TF): F Tyre survey: Goodyear F1 GSD2 Wheel size: 16" (7J) Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Sensitive to pressures but track & road performance excellent, stunning braking grip in wet, wear rate better than expected provided alignment correct Cost(optional): circa £80 per corner Bought from(optional): Protyre Bristol Mike |
| Mike Hankin |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Bridgestone RE720 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective comments: Superb in dry, very good in wet Cost(optional): About £300 Bought from(optional): Protyre Bristol Mike H |
| Mike Hall |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear NCT-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 5 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry, awfull in the wet. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Good tyres- enough dry grip and enough wet grip. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: F Tyre survey: PROXES T1-S Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- great dry grip and enough wet grip. Cost(optional): 45 Pound/corner Bought from(optional): DE local tyre workshop Model: F Tyre survey: PROXES T1-S and PROXES T1-R Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 (PROXES T1-S) Profile- Rear: 215/40 (PROXES T1-R) Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- great dry grip and enough wet grip. Cost(optional): 45 Pound/corner Bought from(optional): DE local tyre workshop ---------------------------------- Winter Tyres, while on the matter ---------------------------------- Model: F Tyre survey: any of this balloons Wheel size: 14" steel rim Profile- Front: 175/65 Profile- Rear: 175/65 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments: poor winter tyres- bad dry grip and bad wet grip. Good in deep snow only. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: F Tyre survey: Conti Wheel size: 15" alloy Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 185/55 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6 Subjective comments: good winter tyres - enough dry grip and enough wet grip. Good in deep snow aswell. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): ----------------------------------- ----------------------------------- |
| Dieter |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear F1 GSD2 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Great tyre - excellent grip in dry or wet. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): MG Model: F Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes T1-S Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments:Good levels of grip in dry or wet but not as good as my previous F1 GSD2 - better value tho Cost(optional):£210 for set - fitted etc Bought from(optional): Steve |
| Steve P |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes T1-S Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments:Good levels of grip in dry or wet good value. Side walls WAY to soft. Recommend overinflation to compensate! Cost(optional):£200ish for set Bought from(optional): Falmouth tyres...I know long story MG Model: F Tyre survey: assorted from ebay Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments:cheap but yuk Cost(optional):£100 for set inc VVC rims!!- fitted etc Bought from(optional): Ebay! |
| Neil |
| I'd be interested to know wear rates. How many miles did they last front and back? (Roughly and assuming they had worn out rather than been damaged) |
| JohnB |
MG Model: F Tyre survey: Yokohamer A539 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective: Not the best looking tread pattern about perhaps but these really are a good allrouder, great grip in dry and wet,have used same for about 4 years and given bit of wellie on track and grip is superb and fairly quiet road tyre. Cost(optional): approx £54 ea Bought from(optional): Mytyres.co.uk |
| DC Morris T6 DCM |
FWIW obviously this is entirely subjective, and only based on my expectations of the car, as i haven't got a previous set or sets to compare against... MG Model (F or TF): F tyre Survey: Front: Continental Premium Contact Rear: Pirelli P7000 Wheel size:15" Profile- Front:185/55 Profile- Rear:205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Jury out on this combination, not especially convinced by steering feel in wet, although grip at front progressive, had a couple of unexpected 'step outs' on rear in wet, but catchable. in the dry seem fine, bit understeery, but that could be due to running 185's - same proviso re: steering feel. Cost(optional):came with car Bought from(optional): as above hope this helps mike |
| mike |
| Yes, availability - I'll add that data when the results are back in :o) John - wear rates - good question! Rears wear faster - perhaps we should be asking that question too. IIRC I managed to squeeze 25k miles out of the NCTs. The Bridgestones went in about 15k (but included competition and track use) - and the Goodyears tend to wear at a similar rate (again with a good amount of track use) |
| Rob Bell |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: "Nankang" Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 175/55 Profile- Rear: 195/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 1 Subjective comments: Bloody deathtraps. OK-ish in the dry, horrendous in the wet. Cost(optional): fitted with car when purchased Bought from(optional): MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear F1 GSD2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: massive improvement (unsuprisingly); much more confident in dry and wet. Cost(optional): came with my 16" rims, slightly used, for about £400 all in. Bought from(optional): Jamie |
| J Wakeham |
| MG Model (F or TF): F Trophy Tyre survey: Goodyear F1 GSD3 Wheel size: 16" (7J) Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9.5 Subjective comments: Excellent grip (especially in the wet) on the road or track, very good wear rate for the type of tyre Cost(optional): circa £75 per corner Bought from(optional): Bell Silencers Swindon |
| Blue Pocket Rocket |
| MG Model (F or TF): F 1998 VVC Tyre survey: Avon ZR2 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195 Profile- Rear: 205 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent grip in the dry, a little twitchy when its very wet Cost(optional): cant remember Bought from(optional): national tyres |
| Colin Ashworth |
| Tyre survey: MG Model (F): Wheel size: 15” Profile- Front: 195/50 Toyo Proxes T1-S Profile- Rear: 205/50 Goodyear NCT-3 8.5/10 for the Toyo’s great for the money except the 205/50 T1-S does not seem to be available any more. Understand the T1-R has a reinforced tyre wall (tried them on a Elise & were really good. So I'm going for the T1-R in future. Wear rate has been ok since setting toe-in to 0 degrees, 1st set lasted 3 months with factory tracking settings! 6.5/10 for Goodyear’s, on the basis of good wear rates, handling predictable and so much better than the below nightmares they replaced. I’ve had about 21K from the rears although due for replacement now. 0/10 Unknown budget tyre originally fitted to rear of car, messed up handling so much the garage rebuilt rear suspension trying to fix the problem (I let them do it, it was free after all). Suspicion was poorly reinforced tyre walls. Cheers, Russ. |
| R D Mellor |
First set when car bought in January 2002 MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear NCT-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry and wet. Approx 24K miles rear 34K miles front. Cost(optional):supplied with car when new. Bought from(optional): Second Set Tyre survey: Firestone TZ200 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: very pleased with the grip in the dry and wet as I drive a lot on country lanes with plenty of farmers muck around. The wear rate at the minute seems as good as my last set of tyres. Cost(optional):Front=£52, Rear=£56. Bought from(optional):Local ESSO petrol Station nr Preston Lancs |
| Brian Howarth |
| Model: TF160 Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- superb dry and wet grip. Great for road or track use. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Came with car Model: TF160 Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Good tyres but didn’t suit the TF that wel. Grip seemed to decrease and made the TF feel more twitchy over time. Dangerous in snow. Car didn’t feel as well stable or as well fixed to the road as with GS-D2 fitted. Performance in the wet wasn’t as good as with the D2 either. Cost(optional): £85 Bought from(optional): BT Tyres, Rugby Model: F Tyre survey: NTC 3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments: Frightful tyre. Little grip on anything other than a perfectly dry road. Even small amounts of power would send to car spinning in the wet. Wear rate was very good, but suspect this was due to them being so hard, and thus the poor grip levels. Bought from(optional): |
| Steve White |
| MG Model (F or TF): Trophy 160 Tyre survey:Yokohamer A539 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front:195/45 Profile- Rear:215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Found them excellent in both wet and dry seem to wear well Cost(optional):£114.49 for 2 fronts Bought from(optional): Falmouth Tyres |
| Paul Huddleston |
| Model: F Tyre survey: Avon ZV3 (good tread pattern) Wheel size: 16" Profile- F 205/40 Profile- R 205/40 Rating: 8 Excellent in dry, pretty good wet but light right foot required at times on bends, the odd twitch was noticed. Around 14k use before replaced on rear. Around £240 for 4 delivered not fitted. Model: F Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes Wheel size: 16" Profile- F 205/40 Profile- R 205/40 Rating: 8 Superb in dry, not bad in wet but again suseptible to light twitching if heavy footed. Around £280 for 4 delivered not fitted. Around 10K use before replaced on rear. |
| Chris Catchpole |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Continental Premium Contact Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truly dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6 Subjective comments: Average dry grip however the handling in the wet was a little scary. Car was very biased towards understeer Cost(optional): With car when bought MG Model: F Tyre survey: Continental Premium Contact / Toyo T1-R Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 (Toyo T1-R) Profile- Rear: 205/50 (Continental) Rating (0-10, where 0= truly dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 (would probably be 9 if I had the same tyres on all 4 corners!) Subjective comments: The Toyo's have reduced the understeer a lot. Will definitely replace the continentals on the back with T1-R's when they start to wear. Toyo's are amazing value! Cost(optional): Toyo's (Front) £41 fitted |
| James King |
| MG Model (F or TF): F 1.8i Wheel size: 16 Profile- Front: 205/40 Avon ZZ3 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Avon ZZ3 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): so far at least a good 8 in the dry, too new to have tried in the wet Subjective comments: corners on rails?! Cost(optional): £300 Bought from(optional): Coopers of Newmains (Lanarkshire) MG Model (F or TF): as above Wheel size: 15 (I've recently changed!) Profile- Front: 185/55 Avon ZV1 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Avon Zv3 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): Subjective comments: 8, no problems compared to standard Goodyear Touring, and pretty good at Knockhill in the wet, managed 74sec best, no hairy moments and the brakes got pretty hot! Cost(optional): forgotten Bought from(optional): as above |
| M Cunningham 1 |
| MG Model (F or TF): -F VVC Toyo Proxes T1 -R Wheel size:- 15 Profile- Front:-205/50 Profile- Rear:-205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): - SUPERB 8.5 Subjective comments:They are a soft tyre so if you use them hard they wear. Small expense for an excellnt value tyre. Make a very good every day tyre ride is good. Cost(optional):$145 each Bought from(optional):Edgers Tyre Power MG Model (F or TF):-F 1.8mpi Goodyear F1 GS D3 Wheel size:-16 Profile- Front:215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):Excellent 7.5 Subjective comments: Not as clingy as the Toyo's. A good every day tyre that wears well. Cost(optional):$175 Bought from(optional): MG Model (F or TF):-F VVC Goodyear NCT 5 Wheel size:15 Profile- Front:185/55 Profile- Rear:205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 4.5 Very Average Subjective comments: This rating is based on performance of the tyres above. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): |
| Andrew Regens |
| MG Model: F 1.8i Tyre survey: Yokohama A539 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7.5 Subjective: Good all round tyre. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: TF120 Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- never had a problem. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Came with car Model: TF120 Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent tyre, except while D3's fitted on rear and D2's on the front. Car was often a little twitchy. After the fronts replaced with D3's handling was back to what it was with D2's all round. Except that I spun it once on a track, and had not the year before when on D2's all round. But maybe I was a bit more circumspect the first time out. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): |
| Neil Courtney |
| Model: Model: VVC Tyre survey: Toyo Proxy T1-R Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: Work very well with no problems. Seem to be rather flexible compared with Goodyears & Bridgestones despite T1-R claiming to have stiffer walls Cost(optional): c£50 each Bought from(optional): Bracknell Tyres Model: VVC Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2/3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3-9 Subjective comments: GS-D3 on front very twitchy for some time when combined with GS-D2 on rear, but eventually excellent with minimum understeer Cost(optional): £45/£65 Bought from(optional): Bracknell Tyres Model: VVC Tyre survey: Bridgestone RE720 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Good middle range tyre. Does nothing wrong, but nowhere near as good as the best. Bought from(optional): Model: VVC Tyre survey: Bridgestone SO-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent, if a little soft, with a little less feel than SO-2. Bought from(optional): Model: VVC Tyre survey: Bridgestone SO-2 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 10 Subjective comments: Excellent tyres- superb dry and wet grip. Not as soft as the SO-3, but strangely marginally better grip & feel Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: F Tyre survey: NTC 3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments: Dangerous. All to easy to spin the rears (and the rest of the car). Too much understeer. Bought from(optional): standard fitment |
| Peter Ambrose |
| Here's my contribution... I don't do many dozens of thousands kilometers a year, but I do them hard ;o) Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: NTC 3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 4 Subjective comments: OK for cruising, not for driving. Bought from(optional): standard fitment Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: Fulda Y3000 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 205/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: Much better than NCT3. Quickly worn on the inside (tracking issue). Scrubbed heavily inside front plastic arches. Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: Bridgestone S-02 PP Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9.5 Subjective comments: Awesome grip on dry & wet. Inspire huge confidence. My best tyre experience. Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes T1-s Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215/40 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7.5 Subjective comments: Hard work to take the succession of S02's ! I went from 15" to 16" and overall wider rubber at the same time, so not very objective. Good "average" tyre. Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: GoodYear EagleF1 gsd2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205/45 Profile- Rear: 225/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective comments: they were glued to the road. Great braking and handling on the wet too. Good wearing rate (15000 km : rears) Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: Dunlop SP Sport 9000 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: - Profile- Rear: 225/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective comments: as good as the F1 gsd2's they replaced. Excelllent overall Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: F 1.8 mpi Tyre survey: GoodYear EagleF1 gsd3 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205/45 Profile- Rear: - Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8.5 Subjective comments: perhaps marginally better grip than the GSD2's they replaced. At least certainly not worse. A bit stiffer, what is maybe not such a good thing for the F (at the front). Bought from(optional): tyre fitter. Model: TF 135 Tyre survey: Fulda Carat Extremo Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6 Subjective comments: I don't like them. Grip is average, braking is poor !! (although comparing TF w/ ABS vs. F w/o ABS but w/ big discs, is hasardous) Bought from(optional): they were on the car (young 2nd hand), freshly fitted. |
| Fabrice |
| These were the tyres on my car when I bought it, Khumo's on the front. Goodyear F1's on the rear. MG Model (F or TF): TF 135 Tyre Survey: Khumo ECSTA KH11 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front:195/45/16 Profile- N/A Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 4.5 Subjective comments: These seem to perform fairly well in the dry, however in the wet there is no grip at the front end, it just washes out, have to be very careful in the wet. Cost(optional): Unknown (on the car when bought) Bought from(optional): MG Model (F or TF): TF 135 Tyre Survey: Goodyear F1 GSD3's Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front:N/A (coming soon to my car) Profile- 215/40/16 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Superb all round tyre, cant really fault them Cost(optional): £76 per Tyre Bought from(optional): Goodtread Garages, Alness |
| Ian Stewart |
| MG Model (F or TF):F tyre survey: Toyo T1-R Wheel size:16 Profile- Front:195/45 Profile- Rear:215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):9 Subjective comments: Best yres i have ever had on the car as also good in the wet.Look quite nice as well Cost(optional):240 for a set of 4 Bought from(optional):camskill for tyres local for fitting. |
| NJ Rawlings |
| MG Model: F Tyre survey: Bridgestone RE720 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: Excellent all round whether wet or dry and yes, I have tried them fast and wet round corners ;-) Cost(optional): Approx £300 for 4 Bought from(optional): Protyre in Bristol |
| Fiona |
| MG Model: F 1.8 mpi Wheel size: 15 Profile- Front:185/55 NCT 3 (41k miles) Profile- Rear:205/50 NCT 3 (20k ish miles) Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6 Subjective comments: Honest tyre, no probs. Cost(optional): Orig' fit, replaced rears,110 ish pair fitted Bought from(optional): SMD, Leigh, Lancs MG Model :F 1.8 mpi Wheel size: 15 Profile- Front:185/55 NCT 3 (41k miles) Profile- Rear: 205/50 Uniroyal Rain sport (8 miles was more than enough!!) Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): -5!! Subjective comments: Under no circumstances fit this tyre combination! gross rear end steering on straight, felt like rear on castors round bends. Cost(optional): 110 pair, fitted etc. Bought from(optional): Gates Tyres Workington. Great idea Rob!! MG Model: F 1.8 mpi Wheel size: 15 Profile- Front:185/55 NCT 3 (41k miles) Profile- Rear:205/50 NCT 5 (2k to date) Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6 Subjective comments: Seems fine, though limited use. Cost(optional): 140 pair, fitted etc. Bought from(optional): Gates Tyres Workington. |
| g hampson |
| MG Model (F or TF): F 1.8mpi Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185x55 (1 x Michelin, 1 x Maxon) as supplied by Carcraft Rochdale Profile- Rear: 205x50 Goodyear Eagle GSD-2 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 5 to 6 Subjective comments: The tyres were fitted on the car when I bought it. The Goodyears were good but only lasted about 3000 miles before I had to replace them. The fron was crap but rally l;ousy alignment probably had something to do with that. Cost(optional): N/A Bought from(optional): Carcraft. MG Model (F or TF): F 1.8mpi Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: Avon ZV3 185x55 Profile- Rear: Avon ZV1 205x50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):8 Subjective comments: A pretty good combination in both wet and dry. ZV1s gave 13000 miles on the back. ZV3 remained on the car to the next set of rears. Cost(optional): ZV1 £70 per tyre fitted, ZV3 £75 per tyre fitted Bought from(optional): ZV1 National Tyres Grangemouth ZV3 National Tyres Chorley. MG Model (F or TF): F 1.8mpi Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: Avon ZV3 185x55 Profile- Rear: Avon ZV3 205x50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):9.5 Subjective comments: Brilliant on dry and wet. Even on fresh snow they performed well. Always felt safe with this combination and I was thinking that teh fronts were going to outlive the rear tyres by about 7000 miles until a zealous MOT mechanic failed the one front tyre which meant replacing four tyres at once. Forced me to change tyre preference (see next Block) The ZV3 is much softer than the ZV1 but the grip is exceptional for a road tyre that has to perform in both wet and dry conditions. 7000 miles on the rears with hard driving, might have got 20000 out of the fronts were it not for the tracking. Cost(optional): Front £75 each, rear £75 each, fitted Bought from(optional): National Tyres Grangemouth MG Model (F or TF): F 1.8mpi Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: Toyo Proxies T1-S 195x50 Profile- Rear: Toyo Proxies T1-S 205x50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):8.5 Subjective comments: Almost as good as the Avon, cetainly a little cheaper Performance is pretty good and feels pretty sure footed in the wet as well. They have only been on the car 2000 miles, so will have to see about durability, but reports from others seem positive on that respect. Cost(optional): £200 all round fitted. Bought from(optional): Fair Deal Tyres Grangemouth |
| Nkosi_Ecosse |
| Model: TF 160 Tyre: GoodYear Eagle F1 gsd2 Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205/50 Profile- Rear: 225/45 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 10 Subjective comments: Bigger sizes meant dry grip and braking was astonishing. Handling balance still perfect thanks to maintained difference in width between front and rear. Additional benefits: fantastic arch-filling looks and better comfort. Drawbacks: footwell panels must be altered, not road legal... :-( Bought from: tyre fitter. |
| Per |
| Hi Per, I'm glad you posted about that setup (I've had it in mind since you posted about some time ago). I've already had the same widths, although lower profiles on my former F. What do you meanby "footwells altered" ? Is it just the old hairdryer trick to slighly push back the plastic liner, or a bigger job ? Do the tyres only scrub on full lock in reverse, or more badly ? And by "not road legal" ? My F passed 2 MOT's with 225/40 & 205/45 tyres... Cheers, Fabrice |
| Fabrice |
| Hi Fabrice, The footwell panels modifications needed are more extensive than the old liner/hairdryer trick. Even with the liner taken out completely, the wheels rub on the footwell panel on close to full lock (you won't even reach full lock!), both in reverse and going forward. By "not road legal" I meant that you will be outside of manufacturer's specifications. Your wheels will be much bigger than the standard ones and this will affect your speedo's readings (although, intrestingly, I had the car timed at 80, 100 and 120 Km/h and the speedo readings where spot on!!) I note with interest what you are saying about the "Contrôle technique" here in Belgium not saying anything about your bigger tyres... Did you mention it to them, or did you just sneak through... ;-) ? As regards the look (d'enfer!!!) I could send some pictures to anyone willing to put them up on a website (Dieter?). Per |
| Per |
| Model: F Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes TS1 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 195/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truly dangerous and 10= Superb!): 10 Subjective comments: Superb in the dry. Confident and stable in the wet. Cost(optional): around £150 quid fitted Bought from(optional): Abottsinch Tyres, Kilmarnock |
| Bob Millar |
| MG Model (F or TF):F 1.8i Wheel size: Standard Tyre Type: Toyo Trampio GWN Profile- Front:205-50-15 Profile- Rear:205-50-15 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!):Excellent 9 Subjective comments: Good grip wet or dry, quiet, comfortable Cost(optional):A$150 each (Approx 50 Quid) Bought from(optional): Ian Edgar's tyrepower - MGCCmember and MG racer. |
| Phil Stafford |
| Rob, Excellent collection of data here. Any objection to me adding this data to the Quality Database at http://www.apttony.co.uk/MGFquality/MGFquality.html once the thread starts to slow down? Regards Tony |
| Tony Thompson |
| Hi Per, Thanks for your reply. That "extensive panel modifications" sounds indeed more serious than the hairdryer trick :-( Can you please explain what had to be done exactly ? I'm not surprised at all that the speedo is now spot on with your bigger tyres... According to my calculations, the overall diameter increased by a little less than 4% (between the original 205/50-15 and your 225/45-16). It's a well known fact that almost every car speedo over-estimates real speeds... now you've just corrected the error ;o) For the "contrôle technique", I passed twice (2002 and 2003) with 225 rear and 205 front tyres. I didn't mention it to them, and I don't know if they noticed it ! For when is due your first visit ? And for pictures, I am of course willing to see them ! you can send them please at fabrice_dot_bihay_AT_advalvas_DOT_be Fabrice |
| Fabrice |
| No problem Tony :o) I am going to rebuild the tyre section on mgf.ultimatemg.com but having the data in more than one place is never a bad idea IMO :o) Thanks for all the feedback so far - I'll go through the figures later, but it looks as though there are some clear favourites amongst owners :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Hi Fabrice, The modification, which I had done by a good panel repair shop (cost me 500 €), was to straigthen the "step" that you see on the panel at the back (rear) of the wheel arch, as seen on this picture (thanks Andy!): http://www.sfforever.co.uk/pictures/mainpage_29/id778.jpg Once that step is flattened, you have the extra 3 or 4 cm that you need to fit the bigger wheel. I then also cut away a bit of the liner to get rid of the final bit of rubbing I still experienced on full lock (couldn't get that liner to be flush with the panel). Of course, if you cut the liner, you must apply plenty of panel protection gunk on the panel (bitumen actually, you find that at Auto 5 - Belgium's poor equivalent to Halfords, for those not familiar with this country), to keep good rust protection and sound proofing. I will also add, as regards the rear wheels, that the clearance at the top lip of the rear wheel arch is very small on full compression of the suspension. My car is fine, but I could imagine that another car with slighty different tolerances could experience a need to roll back or cut off a bit of that lip (and remember that the F still had that rubber protection strip on that lip, which was deleted as a cost cutting measure on the TF). My first visit at the "contrôle technique" is due next year, but I have another set of wheels with the original tyres on... ;-) I'll get some good pictures and send them to you! Cheers, Per |
| Per |
| hum ! that's serious mods you've done to your TF ! I'm looking forward to see the pictures, but I'm not sure I would undertake such big mods to fit higher profile tyres... Did the panel repair shop cut and weld, or "only" reshape the panel ? My TF has Xpower (Eibach) springs, so the clearance inside arches is a big issue, but I think your car has these springs too ? Now I understand why you ask about the "Contrôle technique" ;o) Anyway, with or without original tyres, the "bitumen" hides the to mods inside... |
| Fabrice |
| Fabrice, You've got mail! Per P.S: If anybody else is interested, tell me here or at per_dot_lagergren_AT_brutele_dOt_be, and I'll also send you the pics. |
| Per |
| Anyone else got impressions on the Continentals? From my brief encounters with TFs with these tyres, I would rate them significantly higher than NCT-3s... |
| Rob Bell |
| My TF135 came with Contis as OEM on the 15". Ran them for about 13000 miles, never a single dodgy moment in wet or dry. Changed to TOYOs because I've used them before and because of price. I hear complaints about Contis but I had none - I have used NCT3, GY F1, Conto, TOYO on the F & TF. I don't do track days so have no feedback on Contis-on-Track. |
| John Ponting |
| (LOL @ John - hope Dave Livingstone is aware of www.contis-on-track :o) ) |
| Mike Hall |
| John, can you do a feedback score for the contis? Thanks :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Mike, >>hope Dave Livingstone is aware of www.contis-on-track :o) LOL - it did make me look twice :-) Dave http://www.mgs-on-track.com |
| Dave Livingstone |
| Car currently at Mike Saturs having all sorts done, and earlier had an interesting chat with Mike about the current tyres (those fitted when I bought it). Front are NCT3, and have the worn inside edge. Rear are a Dunlop type I had never heard of before but are apparently recommended for the MGF (might be the SP Sport 9000 that Fabrice mentions above, but obviously I cannot just pop out and check at the moment). Handling has been fine except for a wobble on hard cornering. However, would not be inclined to say anything because clearly the suspension needs the work it is currently receiving. Having the NCT3's replaced with the Dunlops and, with suspension sorted, will report back. Chris |
| Chris Reeves |
| Model: VVC Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes T1-S Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent grip and handling in both wet and dry. Toyos have a nice rim protector too which is an asset. I wanted T1-R's but couldn't get hold of them as the guy said they were discontinued. Cost(optional): £260 All 4 including 4 wheel Laser Tracking Bought from(optional): Selecta Tyre, Loughborough |
| Nick Atkins |
| Model: MGF 1.8i Tyre survey: Toyo Proxes T1-S's on rear / T1-R's on front. Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Compared to the Nankang things I had before - these are like SuperGlue. Fantasic data guys - saved me money and introduced me to a tyre I'd not heard of before! Cost(optional): £218 All 4 including everything. Bought from(optional): Mid Devon Tyres - Crediton, Devon |
| S J Knight |
| Model: MGF 1.8VVC Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 all round Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 195/45 Profile- Rear: 215/40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Previous owner had mixed up GSD2 and GSD3 compounds on opposite diagonals which just felt a bit wrong especially at speed. Much smoother drive now with plenty of grip, wet or dry. Cost(optional): £340 for the set inc. fitting / balancing etc. A little steep maybe but GSD2's are getting harder to find. Bought from(optional): www.blackcircles.com - they deliver to local fitters all over the country. (btw if anyone else wants to use this site I have some discount e-vouchers from them to give away - just email me) |
| Al |
| I fitted BF Goodridge G-profiler tyres to my VVC Mgf . These I have found excellent in the dry and good in the wet too. Pembury track day was very wet and my car experienced good handling. On dry track days the rubber does get sticky :-) Cost wise I believe they were approx £60 fitted each inc nitrogen gas instead of air. regards don |
| don k |
| Hope this is not too late, but just changed fronts this morning after checking the board for archived advice yesterday. MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear F1 GSD2 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Now on both front and back, the change when first fitted to the rear (thanks to the advice on here) was astonishing. Definitely inspire confidence, though tracking, poly tie-bar bushes and Techspeed's Bilsteins all got done at the same time. Rears have lasted about 15k so far and have 4mm left. Addition of fronts this morning, even at silly garage pressure makes for better feedback than the Avons; I also hope for better turn-in once scrubbed-in. Interestingly, I looked at incresing to 195, but the 195/50 only comes as a GS D3, which is something I didn't find mentioned on here. Cost(optional): £75 fitted from SE Tyres, which since they are £65 ish from mytres.co.uk, seemed like good value. Bought from(optional): MG Model: F Tyre survey: Bridgestone RE 720 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6.5 Subjective comments: As said above, good mid-range tyre, but not inspiring confidence. A hell of a lot better than the NCT-3s that i changed from, but I was glad of the change to the GS D2s when one of these got a puncture. Huge, noticeable difference. Cost(optional): £70 or so at the time Bought from(optional): MG Model: F Tyre survey: Avon ZV1 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7 Subjective comments: choice of dealer seller when fronts were replaced before sale. Not that bad, even in combination with the above on the rear. Lasted 25k miles. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): MG Model: F Tyre survey: Goodyear NCT -3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments: Awful. Were on the car when purchased and I near came a cropper at the first wettish roundabout at which I had to brake too sharply. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): |
| C Golvala |
| Definitely not too late, and thanks! Keep up the inputs guys, this information is invalubale to F and TF owners for the future :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Thanks for doing the collating Rob and have a free ride back the top of the list. Chaz |
| Chaz |
| WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! Data Overload! God luck with this Rob! |
| Neil |
| Cheers :o) Any more to add to the list folks? |
| Rob Bell |
| Only a less important correction on >Posted 01 November 2005 at 22:36:18 UK time >---------------------------------- >Winter Tyres, while on the matter <---------------------------------- >... ..... >---------- Those on 15" alloy rims are not Conti, but Michelin |
| Dieter |
| Thanks Dieter :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Was there only one other person as mad as i buying khumo tyres??? Cant remember the sizes but they are standard fit 15'ers great in the dry absolutely usless in the wet breaking and turning, plus i have gone through two sets now in just under 20k now looking for alternatives garage i normally use keeps stating that they have to have the good year 5's on or contis, i drove a TF insurance pool car brand new with contis and thought them even worse than my khumos!!!(my yokies on my 200 brake GTE Astra lasted longer than that!!!) |
| Rick |
| Been running Marangoni tyres for ages now and am very happy with them. Have run Michelin Pilots, Dunlop err G2s i think (ditch finders) and the inevitable NCT3s in my time, but below are the tyres i have had on my 16" wheels (as it was too long ago for me to remember my specific experiences of the 15" tyres i had). Marangoni Zeta Linea (current) MG Model (F or TF): 1.8 MPi Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205x45 Profile- Rear: 205x45 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: Need a fair bit of scrubbing in (feel a little vague during this period and tend to tram line a bit), look good, last set ran for 20K (front) and 18K (rear - puncture forced replacement, plenty of tread left). Cost(optional): £60.00 fitted Bought from(optional): Elsenham tyre + exhaust I'm on my 2nd set of these tyres - generally very happy with them. Prior to the Lineas i had... ------------ Marangoni Zeta ESC MG Model (F or TF): 1.8 MPi Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205x45 Profile- Rear: 205x45 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Very good all rounder, sadly no longer available, last set ran for 20K miles (rear), 24K miles (front), not very interesting tread pattern though. Cost(optional): £65.00 fitted Bought from(optional): Elsenham tyre + exhaust My favourite tyre to date. Before these i had... ------------- Goodyear Eagle F1 (GS2) MG Model (F or TF): 1.8 MPi Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 215x40 Profile- Rear: 215x40 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 7.5 Subjective comments: Expensive, not quite as good in the wet as the Marangonis, but do not need scrubbing in. Didn't last long (circa 14K miles) Cost(optional): £105.00 fitted Bought from(optional): Elsenham tyre + exhaust Not as good an all rounder as the Zeta ESCs i felt, very dissapointed in the lifespan (although poor tracking at the time had something to do with this I reckon). Generally feel that they are very overpriced. --------------- Fulda Y3000 MG Model (F or TF): 1.8 MPi Wheel size: 16" Profile- Front: 205x45 Profile- Rear: 205x45 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 8 Subjective comments: Reasonable tyre, good price, and 20K miles out of both the front and rears, sadly no longer available Cost(optional): £75.00 fitted Bought from(optional): Motobuild These came with the wheels (from Motobuild originally). A pretty good tyre and would still be using them if i could get hold of them. If it ain't broke and all that... SF <--- Currently on 106K miles! |
| Scarlet Fever |
| Summary so far... wow! This is looking like the largest response to date for a tyre survey! Over 70 entries so far - 90% of which are for MGFs. TF owners, where are you??? The largest pool of data are for the following tyres: 15.5% Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 13% Toyo Proxes T1-S 12% Goodyear Eagle Touring NCT-3 9% Goodyear Eagle GS-D3 9% Avon 8% Toyo Proxes T1-R 6.5% Bridgestone RE720 5% Bridgestone S-02 4% Yokohama A359 Of these, the clear looser was the Goodyear NCT-3 - which will come as no surprise to anyone. They're no longer available, so good ridence! Will collate the scores soon - but it would be very very helpful to hear from more TF owners!!! Cheers Rob |
| Rob Bell |
| The Christmas MGF/TF tyre awards! The scores, listed in Alphabetical order (number in brackets indicates the number of responses for that particular tyre): Avon ZV1 (1): 7.0 Avon ZR2 (1): 9.5 Avon ZV3 (4): 8.1 Avon ZZ3 (1): 8.0 Bridgestone RE720 (5): 7.4 Bridgestone S-02 (3): 9.8 Bridgestone S-03 (1): 9.0 Continental Premium Contact (2): 6.5 Dunlop SP Sport 9000 (1): 8.5 Firestone TZ200 (1): 8.0 Fulda Carat Extremo (1): 6.0 Fulda Y3000 (2): 7.5 Goodyear NCT-3 (9): 4.7 Goodyear NCT-5 (1): 4.5 Goodyear GS-D2 (12): 8.6 Goodyear GS-D3 (7): 8.5 Khumo Ecsta KH11 (1): 4.5 Maragoni Zeta ECS (1): 9.0 Maragoni Zeta Linea (1): 8.0 Nankang (1): 1.0 Pirelli P7000 (1): 7.0 Toyo Proxes T1-R (6): 8.75 Toyo Proxes T1-S (10): 8.6 Toyo Trampio GWN (1): 9.0 Yokohama A359 (3): 8.3 Overall average score: 7.7 So the winner, once again, is the superlative Bridgestone S-02 - which remains available in the non-standard 205/45 R16 size. With an average score of 9.8 from three respondants, it appears to be the class of the field. Then there is a big gap, but two tyres really stand out: the Toyo T1-R - a big favourite for its performance and reasonable cost, and the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D2 which ties with the Toyo T1-S on 8.6 points out of 10. Many of the other tyres simply haven't had enough respondants to really get a good feel for their efficacy - but if you are looking for new tyres for your F or TF, you are probably best advised to go knocking on the door of your local Toyo supplier and buy yourself the excellent T1-R. Merry Christmas all! :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Rob, I guess you're one step ahead ! As of a few minutes ago, your survey input is now available on the MGF Quality Database at http://www.apttony.co.uk/MGFquality/MGFquality.html I will check out your averaging against mine. Hope they compare!! LOL And SF's need adding! Many thanks Tony PS: As you said, Merry Christmas to you all. |
| Tony Thompson |
| Looks like I am too late. Had Dunlop Sport 01 fitted all round last month (previous NCT3 with worn inside edge at front and and 01's at back) and been seeing how they perform. Anyway, for what it is worth, thus far: MG Model: F Tyre survey: Dunlop Sport 01 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truly dangerous and 10= Superb!): 6~7 Subjective comments: Seems to be no problem with grip in dry, once noticed some twitch in the wet. Ride not bad. Too early to say about wear except that rears were on the car when I purchased 8000 miles ago and show no obvious wear. Cost: £129.25 for front pair Bought from: Mike Satur Chris |
| Chris Reeves |
| Thanks Rob For your work in this compilation. Excellent as usual. There will be as many choices for tyres as there a MG owners, BUT never mix brands and buy the best you can afford! Drive carefully please, these little cars are sometimes NOT seen by Land Cruisers! All have a peaceful Christmas. Regards Tony Harrison |
| Tony Harrison |
| Another late comer but here are my comments: MG Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Goodyear NCT-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 185/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 4 Subjective comments: I had those fitted as standard on the car. Average grip in dry, never to be trusted in the wet. Good ride and wear. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Bridgestone SO-3 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/50 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Excellent after the NCT-3. Feeling is good at the wheel, excellent grip in dry and very good grip at wet. Highly recommended for 15". Only concern they were not available as 185/55 in Istanbul so had the 195/50 fitted as fronts. Bought from(optional): |
| Yigit |
| Tony, Yigit, no not too late at all - I shall add your comments to the database - all very gratefully received! Thanks :o) If any one else has experience with their tyres that could add to the database, please do post here! :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Oh I wish that I had read this tyre survey before today! My mgf has Goodyear NCT 3's and I have just discovered how badly they handle on anything less than a dry surface. I now need a front bumper (any for sale?) together with a couple of wheels, offside headlamp, front indicator etc. Lost it on damp road following exit from roundabout just as I straightened and started to accelerate. At about 35mph I argued with the armco. Once the repairs are done I shall assiduously study the results of this survey and lash out on a fresh set of whatever is best. |
| geoff s. |
| AP "and the inevitable NCT3s in my time, but below are the tyres i have had on my 16" wheels (as it was too long ago for me to remember my specific experiences of the 15" tyres i had)." Wasn't it Nov '96 when they took you out in the snow at Hickleton?? Happy Xmas everyone, be safe. Mike |
| Mike |
| All Have just fitted two new Khumo Ecsta Sport's to the front (KU3's i think, they are a brand new tyre from khumo) Absolutely superb 100 pc better than the others in wet and dry. 8.0 dry and wet |
| Rick |
| Merry Christmas all - I've used 4 brands of tyres over the past 5 years - Goodyear Eagle GS-D2, Falken, Yokohama and Bridgestone. Goodyear - blowout, poor road holding and too soft, Falken - too soft - chopped out very quickly Yokohama - side wall failure Bridgestone - originally Grid II now running Potenza GIII. A harder compound than their top tyre therefore a firmer ride. MG Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Goodyear Eagle GS-D2 Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 4 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry, poor in the wet. Fair ride and poor wear. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): MG Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Falken Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 5 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry & wet. Good ride and poor wear. To be fair these tyres (front only) had uneven wear due to a negative chamber. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): MG Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Yokohama Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/55 Profile- Rear: 195/55 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 3 Subjective comments: Average grip in dry & wet. fair ride and a side wall failure. This model of directional tyre is no longer produced! Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): MG Model: F VVC Tyre survey: Bridgestone Potenza GIII (replaced the Grid II) Wheel size: 15" Profile- Front: 195/55 Profile- Rear: 205/50 Rating (0-10, where 0= truely dangerous and 10= Superb!): 9 Subjective comments: Very good grip in both dry & wet. very good ride - although firm and excellent wear. Cost(optional): Bought from(optional): |
| Dennis |
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