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MG MGF Technical - Mike Satur Quickshift Versus Moss Bros Quickshift

Has anyone had any experience of either of these kits for the MGF. I'm looking for something thats going to take most of the play out of the gear stick. It's like stirring a big pot of soup!

The Mike Satur kit is £200+ plus but the Moss Bros version is only £108. Is there really £100 worth of difference between these two kits? Anyones experience of these would be helpful. I've never fitted or used a qucik shift kit before but a friend had fitted one in his Mini and said it was a fantastic mod. I just want to sharpen up the feel and reduce the sideways play when in gear and have a more precise feel.

Any advice is appreciated!
Bob

Something you can do for just the cost of a nice new chrome/alloy momo type gear knob is, Saw of the tread part of gear stick or a little bit more ,fit new gear knob, and the difference is greatly improved, no kidding, much more poss feel, Dave T6DCM.
DC Morris

Bob

You also need to collect thoughts on the TechSpeed quick(slick)shift as a third option.

It may also be worth searching the archive to see what everybody said last time they were asked similar questions.

To access the archive you will need to register on the BBS but it is free.
JohnP

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JohnP

bob..... dont know the moss bros ( if it was the old brown and gammons wieghted stick type ) i had this on for two weeks and got rid of it, it was poor. the satur kit works . if you want to try before buy come along to a csf run and you can have a try on one of the cars fitted with the system .....gerry
GERRY

Bob

I've had Mike's SS2 for nearly a year now... well pleased with it, very short shift and extremely positive on selection..

It does take a little getting used to after the 'bag of gears' it was before.. i cant recommend it enough..

I havent tried a techspeed or moss changer so cant compare them directly unfortunately..

If your coming down to silverstone i am sure you'll get the oportunity to try all. there's bound to be a BBS member each type fitted

Stu
Stu

I agree with Gerry. We tried these three kits - Moss/ Mike Satur and Techspeed quick shifts for MG World.

The Moss one was easily the worst. :o(

The Satur and Techspeed kits vied for the final honors. Mike's has a heavier, slightly more mechanical feel, but really is super accurate, whilst the Techspeed item was quick and easy.

Costs are about the same, although the Techspeed system cost includes fitting.

I'd advise you try both before choosing, although they are both so good, there is no wrong decision to make.
Rob Bell

<<if you want to try before buy come along to a csf run and you can have a try on one of the cars fitted with the system>>

I've got the Techspeed one, definately recommend it.
paul weatherill

Pardon my ignorance but what's a "csf run". I'm new to the whole MG scene (only had my MGF for 2 months). I assume it's some kind of owners club.
Bob

Moss kit is a replacement cam at the gear selector end and a replacement bell housing bracket at the gearbox end. It relies upon the old (worn) OE bearings and does not cure the 'stirring pudding' feel you get from a worn gear selector mechanism.

Techspeed kit replaces the worn OE bearings for new (OE) ones and also uses rose joints on the cable ends. It is also a short lever and the TS boys spend a good deal of time setting it up so that it is spot on - this is where your money goes and is also why the TS kit is not a DIY affair. I use it is light and precise.

Mike Satur SSK2 kit replaces just about everything with precision milled items including new phosphor bronze bushes and rose joints. Again the stick is shorter and it comes as a complete item, all you do is unbolt the old selector and install the new one. It is very well engineered and shouldn't suffer the same wear problems associated with the OE bearings. It is (slightly) heavier and has a real rifle-bolt type feel to it.

Summary.

Moss kit, shortens the throw, but doesn't cure the sloopy nature of the OE bearings.

TS kit, you are paying for TS (considerable) expertise, the result is an excellent feeling shift, that is set up perfectly. To date i have heard of no real problems with it, but i suspect that as they use OE bearings these will ultimately be it's achillies heel.

MS kit, you are paying for the engineering, it is a very robust item that should never give any real problems as all the OE items are replaced with better spec ones. Thus it feels very different to the normal F gearchange, more like a push rod system than a cable operated one.

SF
Scarlet Fever

<<Pardon my ignorance but what's a "csf run".>>

see here for more details

http://www.csmgf.dsl.pipex.com/

I won't be able to make the next one, as my car is off the road, but hope to see you on any future runs.

Paul
paul weatherill

Thanks guys. Look's like I'll go for the Mike Satur kit. Couldn't justify going down to Techspeed just for a quickshift kit. I knew there had to be some reason for the £100 price difference but the old adage of you get what you pay for is true!

Thanks for the advice though. Pretty helpful lot on here. As I mentioned I've only had the car for a couple of months now but it's my pride and joy but it does need a lot of TLC!
Bob

Bob last time I looked we were only charging £175 + but if you think it is worth the £200 +....;-)
The MGW tests were probably over two years ago IIRC, we have a policy of continual improvement and the SSK has had several re-engineered improved parts since the prototype Rob and Co. tested.
Maybe time for a new test Rob??????
Mike.
mike

Could be Mike - certainly the SSK2 is much better than the early prototype we sampled - which represents an improvement on what was already a good product :o)
Rob Bell

Hmmm only £175+ ,nope stay focus'd stop tempting me Mike ;-)

paul weatherill

I'll add my voice to the supporters of Mike Satur's kit. I have it fitted to my TF 160 and I am very pleased with it. Andy's description of the shift action as "like a rifle-bolt" is spot on!

Per
Per

If only there was provision to buy an SSK2 and have it fitted at Silverstone on Saturday ....
JohnP

Yeah John, it'll be like the windstop all over again, you'll see it, you'll touch it, the you'll _have_ to have one, and next thing you know you'll be in the MGF Centre and parting with your reddies(£50 notes)!

Will
Will Munns

Mike,

I thought the price was £175 + Vat + Postage hence the £200+ quote. Not that I'm complaining. Obviously worth it judging by the comments on here so I'll be putting in an order next month!
Bob

>> If only there was provision to buy an SSK2 and have it fitted at Silverstone on Saturday .... <<

Speak to me nicely John... ;-)

SF
Scarlet Fever

This thread was discussed between 18/06/2003 and 19/06/2003

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