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MG MGF Technical - Not too noisy exhaust for a TF?

Sorry, I know the "which exhaust is best?" thing has been done to death, but I have searched the archives without finding the information I'm after.

I'm about to succumb (spelling?) to the temptation of a sports exhaust for my TF 160, and I'm after one which would sound better than the original but still not too noisy. Something that would sound rather bassy and rumbling but certainly not too loud at higher revs.

I'll illustrate what I DON'T want: I once had an SP performance exhaust on my first VVC F, it sounded just like a completely open racing exhaust, waking everyone up as I drove past... :-(

Basically, I want something "classy" which will make my 1.8 four sound like a 4.6 V8... :-D (Yeah, I know... dream on...)

Any advice would be gratefully received!

Cheers,

Per
Per

Per I think you may have missed the bus. We had a batch of Mk2 TT made last month which would certainly deliver what you are looking for. A big deep bass sound. Of course all were sold.

The manufacturer of these pipes worked out that he makes little or no profit on these pipes and has whacked the price up significantly, also he has become VAT registered so now if you want a TF spec TT Mk2 with 3" ends you are looking at about 350! Sticking to the original 2 1/4" ends saves about 50
I have a cunning plan for a slight reduction of manufacturing costs however >:-)

If you want one we should at least talk.



Neil

Per,

Get one with EC approval.
I.e. from REMUS, wherein I do not know whether they have one for the different MGF/mgtf catalyst modification (less one bend)

http://www.mgfcar.de/exhaust_remus/index.htm
http://www.remus.at/product.php?option=1&ln=1&selectPrdID=8
Just ask them, or find a welder who cuts and re-welds to meet the TF.
Sebring is the same, just another name
http://www.sebring.at/

Another is Bastuck
http://www.bastuck.de/haendler/plzaus.html
they don't list the MGF but see the design at the Lotus and I knwo they did already MGF. Some German F-er's have one.

Could ask at the German Forum if you are interested.
Dieter

I think the X-power one probably fits your bill if you can find one - I think I am right in saying they were made/still are by Janspeed. JohnP has one I think and was very happy with it.
Tony

Neil,

I knew about the TT mk2, I have read with interest the latest threads about your work! And I must say it looks superb on these pictures! However, I have been on this BBS for long enough to remember the TT mk1 being described as VERY LOUD!! A recent reference here from someone (sorry, can't remember who) to a dawn "bomber run" down to some poor unsuspecting sleeping village, has convinced my that the mk2 must be extremely loud as well... :-( Would you say that that is a fair thing to say about the mk2?

Dieter,

You may remember that I asked you a few weeks ago in another thread about whether you knew if the REMUS exhaust was available for the TF. It turns out that it isn't and, to be honest, I want to buy an exhaust "off the shelf" without having to do any cutting and welding. Having said that, if you could find out whether this Bastuck exhaust is available for the TF exhaust/cat layout, that would of course be great!

Thanks guys!

Per
Per

Tony, thanks, I was actually wondering about that one! I was thinking that surely MG Rover wouldn't sell anything that was outrageously loud. Can anybody else with first hand experience of the X-power one confirm that it not too loud?
Cheers,
Per
Per

I just saw on the MGF Centre website that they sell an exhaust called "Scorpion" which they describe as "custom made for a quieter taste".

Does anyone here have experience of this one?

Per

Per

Give Mike Satur a call - got X-Power Janspeed Stainless Steel listed for 200 plus VAT (ref EX7800)

HTH

Steve
Steve P

Very happy with the volune and tone of the MS Daytona. Sounds good on its own, but is drowned out by others. Especially those that come from Essex ;)
JohnB

@Dieter/Per: Sure they list the MGF/TF on there homepage, just go to www.bastuck.de, choose your language, select the stainless steel exhausts, and then you have to select ROVER :)
The sound is very bassy, it is louder than the original exhaust. Driving without throttle it is not very loud, but if you put the pedal to the metal it makes quite a noise.
Looks very great on a TF, sorry, i still have no pic of mine, but a friend has:
http://www.und3rt4k3r.de/pages/pic_bastuck.htm

Cheers,
Sven
Sven Angelmahr

Thanks Sven! It looks really great! Do you know if the Bastuck has EC approval? And is there any sound recording of it anywhere on the web?

Per
Per

@Per: Yes, it has an EC approval:
http://www.und3rt4k3r.de/downloads/bastuck_betriebserlaubnis_neu.zip

Soundrecording... don't really know. But i'll try to make one driving home.

Cheers,
Sven
Sven Angelmahr

Oh, i found a soundfile. Bastuck AND green twister on an F:
http://www.roadstervision.de/specials/movies_sounds/MGF_bastuck_greebtwister.zip
Haven't heard it yet, also i'm not able to listen to it now (still on work).

Cheers,
Sven
Sven Angelmahr

http://www.und3rt4k3r.de/pages/pic_bastuck.htm

this picture shows what happens to "chambered" stainless pipes. They get very "blued" in unusual places like this one has in the middle. I have to say other than that, though it looks pretty good!

Can't comment about the noise or the construction
Neil

@Neil: Not only this one got blue in the middle. Indeed mine did the same.
Sven Angelmahr

Sven,

That exhaust sounds fantastic!!! Exactly what I am looking for! A nice bassy sound without too much "raspiness". And with EC approval on top of it all, to please the Belgian "MOT" inspectors!

I am going to buy one!

Many thanks for your help, everyone!

Cheers,

Per
Per

Ok, i've checked the soundfile now. THATS the way the bastuck sounds :)
My own try's reckording a sound for you ended in total desaster: my PDA isn't any good for SOUNDrecording, only for a short speech-memo.

Oh, and if your going to buy one: it'll be very silent in the beginning, but after 500-1000km it sound fantastic.

Have fun!

Cheers,
Sven
Sven Angelmahr

>Oh, and if your going to buy one: it'll be very silent in the beginning, but after 500-1000km it sound fantastic.

NOT GOOD!

This behaviour is symptematic of using cheap sound insulation/wadding which disintegrates and gets blown out of the exhaust! Of course the sound will increase. An I am glad that it's a good sound, because often it's horrid!

Tap the silencer, if it sounds hollow or tinny at any point this is what has probably happened! also watch out for the tell tale blue patches of chambered boxes. Just nasty, a patchy silencer and a nasty tinny note Bleuurg!

This is why the TT was reborn!


Neil

Oh dear, you get me worried now...
Per :-/
Per

Per just check out an old one for these things.

If you are happy with it then cool
:-)

Neil

@Neil: For sure some insulating is blown out, but i've allways seen this as a feature, not as a problem. For sure it can't be this cheap that it has gone after only 500km. And the sound stays the same after that. So i think only the insulating that's too much is blown out.
And no, i won't cut mine open to check ;)

Cheers,
Sven
Sven Angelmahr

This thread was discussed between 28/01/2006 and 01/02/2006

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