MG-Cars.com
MG MGF Technical Rolling Road session - interested? BBS discussion at MG-Cars.net
MG-Cars.net
Welcome to our resource for MG Car Information.
Recommendations
Parts
MG parts spares and accessories are available for MG T Series (TA, MG TB, MG TC, MG TD, MG TF), Magnette, MGA, Twin cam, MGB, MGBGT, MGC, MGC GT, MG Midget, Sprite and other MG models from British car spares company LBCarCo.
|
|
MG MGF Technical - Rolling Road session - interested?
| There's been a lot of discussion about rolling road sessions on recent threads - see 'M3D with VVC' and 'Performance Upgrades'. If you're interested in spending a day with your car at Emerald rolling road in South London in November or December then please email me. See http://members.aol.com/emeraldm3d/ for details on Emerald. If there's enough interest, I'll try to organise something. Dave |
| Dave |
| Hi Dave, Yes I'm interested. It's about time we all quantified our return on investment. :-) You have mail. P. |
| Paul Nothard |
Count me in just name the time and place !! Cheers Dave STU p.s. You back on the road yet? |
| Stu |
| Stu, Great - no not yet - hopefully end of next week. Paul, No email in sight yet, but great to hear you're up for it too. What dates can you NOT make. Here's the interest list so far: Rob Bell Tim Woolcott Paul Nothard Stu Dickens Jerry Flint Nick Young Dave Livingstone Looking good! Dave |
| Dave |
| Are rolling roads good for your car? Surely giving your engine a good licking without good airflow is asking for overheating in all sorts of places? Oooerr. |
| Jodi |
Not available Nov 22-24. Available most other dates. P. |
| Paul Nothard |
Difficult for me to say a date as my work takes me abroad at very short notice, but once you have a general consensus of a suitable date I should hopefully be able to book the day off but I need a couple of weeks notice ideally ! Hope we can get this sorted !! STU |
| Stu |
| Not available 2/11 or 5/11 - but other dates okay at the mo' :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Thanks Stu, Paul - got your email. Latest: Rob Bell (not 2/11 or 5/11) Tim Woolcott (not between 31/10 and 3/11) Paul Nothard (not 22 to 24/11) Stu Dickens (hopefully anytime given 2 weeks notice) Steve Riches (not Nov 12/13 or Dec 11) Jerry Flint (need dates you can't do) Nick Young (any Saturday except 2/11) Dave Livingstone (anytime) Looking good. Dave |
| Dave |
| I think you should ensure you have a mixture of various F's and TF's so we really have some data to stick our teeth into. |
| T.E.D. |
| South london is a bit far for me, were you getting anything "interesting" done in the end then Dave? |
| Kingsley |
| Yeah, sorry Kingsley - it's just that most of the original interested parties seemed to live in the South-East and Emerald, in South London, sounded a good fit. They are also, of course, the suppliers of the M3D programmable replacement for MEMS which will make for interesting conversation. Since my HGF, the car was picked up by TechSpeed. The cyclinder head (VVC) went off to Dave Andrews who is currently working on a full port/gas flow. Hence the interest in the RR from me. Once Dave has finished, the head will go back to TechSpeed, who will rebuild the engine. I hope to get the car all back together towards the end of next week. Dave |
| Dave |
| Np Dave. I'll be very interested to see your results, will you be sticking with mems? or upgrading? DTH throttle bodies ? :D |
| Kingsley |
| Kingsley, The bill from the HGF plus porting will be hefty enough. MEMS should cope I'm told. The way forward should I ever decide to do more would be to ditch the VVC and go for the Piper cam solid conversion plus M3D ECU. DTH Throttle bodies - I guess ultimately, but I'll probably never get that far! Dave |
| Dave |
| Now we are ten: Rob Bell (not 2/11 or 5/11) Tim Woolcott (not between 31/10 and 3/11) Paul Nothard (not 22 to 24/11) Stu Dickens (anytime) Steve Riches (not Nov 12/13 or Dec 11) Jerry Flint (need dates you can't do) Nick Young (any Saturday except 2/11) Mike Pollard (need dates) Chris Marshall (not 1,6,7,8,12,15,18,19 Nov or 6,9,16 Dec) Dave Livingstone (anytime) Dave |
| Dave |
| Healthy entry list there Dave :o) Quite a range of specs too... |
| Rob Bell |
| Please let me know the date of your proposed emerald session and I will try to sneak down to smoggy London Town for the day. Just to let you all know the oil leak was fixed by Mike S. at the weekend, not the VVC unit but a wrongly cut cam cover gasket,befor anyone tells me it was on upside down or back to front, I can assure you it was not! I do not know what the BHP or torque figures will be for this particular conversion, but it is very nice to drive and much, much quicker than when it was in standard form with it's K&N. For those who have not met me the MG stands for Mad Geordie, if and when we do meet me, you will know why! Dave you have mail! Paul have you moved and got those brakes fitted in your 15" rims? |
| MGTerry |
| Talking about the range of specs, I am not familiar with all yours ? For the record mine is:- 97 MGF VVC 52mm throttle body Moto-build performance exhaust Moto-build Chip (piggy back type) Piper cross Viper (carbon air box)filter Thats about it on the engine front !! Cheers all Stu |
| Stu |
| My car: '96 MPi - Mike Satur Imola exhaust - K&N 57i cone filter in a Rover 820 airbox And, hopefully soon - a 4-2-1 extractor exhaust manifold Not much I grant you - but all I'm allowed to get away with in the standard class of the MGCC sprint championship ;o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Hmm 4-2-1 that'll be interesting |
| Kingsley |
| My '97 VVC has standard engine/transmission apart from K&N. Steve |
| Steve |
| What is the cost? Jason H |
| Jason H |
| Rob, Never thought I'd get excited but an exhaust manifold but a 4-2-1 Mmmm......I wanna see that :o) Tim |
| tim woolcott |
My car: . Peter Burgess flowed head . KnN . 52mm throttle body Brakes: (for the Mad Georgie! :o) Yes, I've moved house and I did manage to get the brakes fitted in time. <phew> They are a bit of a fiddle to fit, but once fitted they work very well. *Still* not abused them enough to comment fully, but I'd say already that it's money well spent. P. |
| Paul Nothard |
| Hi Dave Not seen this thread before, count me and can do it most dates except 9/11. Std 1.8i ITG Maxogen filter Miltek sports exhaust. Tom |
| Tom Randell |
| Hi Tom, Is your car all OK now? What was the final chapter in the saga? Thanks for your interest in the RR session. That makes at least 12 maybe 13 of us. Hope that's not an unlucky number and that Emerald can accomodate us. I've just started the enquiries on that one. I'll get back to everyone, once I have some news on dates and costs. Dave MGF VVC ITG Maxogen 52mm Throttle Body Phoenix Exhaust DVA full ported head (in progress) |
| Dave |
| Nice one Dave :o) |
| Rob Bell |
| Dave, I'm another possible - VVC with 52mmTB, modofied airbox with K&N panel and cold air intake. Jason H |
| Jason H |
| Hi Jason, Yes I got your email this morning - you should have a reply from me - you are in the number I mentioned. Will keep everyone posted. Dave |
| Dave |
| Dave, Yep car still going but as for what the final chapter in the saga was I don't have a clue except complete wireloom change and ecu. Tom |
| Tom Randell |
| I may be interested ... can't do December 7th-13th inclusive. MGF VVC '96 MS back box Trophy TB Hurricane Induction System Gaz |
| Gaz R |
| Sounds like a landmark event for the F that's too good to miss. Will make a concerted effort to attend!!! '96 VVC Now: K&N Filter Mike S S/S Exhaust FSE PBV De-Cat Coming Soon... Piper X Viper Induction Filter Mike S Stage II VVC Tune Magnicor Ignition Leads Steve |
| Steve Jones |
| Oh, and 52mmTB *;-) |
| Steve |
| I have a 52mm TB to fit - so if there is time, I'll do a before and after RR run on my car :o) Hopefully this will confirm Roger's results with the VVC engine as installed on a BRM in a 1.8 MPi in an F! |
| Rob Bell |
| I've just sent an email to everyone who has expressed interest with an update on the plan. It includes an attachment showing all the specs of the cars. We should have a fascinating day. If anyone hasn't received my email please let me know. We're now looking at a Sunday in December (1st, 8th or 15th). Cheers, Dave |
| Dave |
| Dave, Won't be able to make this but would be very interested to see the results. Look forward to everyone's reports from the day. Have a good one! Jim |
| Jim |
| Jim, No problem. Thanks, Dave |
| Dave |
| What, no TFs......? |
| T.E.D. |
| Tony (T.E.D.), Yes, were doing tremendously well for variously modified Fs. We even have at least one each of the various Z cars, but currently no TFs amongst the 17 people interested. We could do with a few absolutely standard cars as a comparison, as I think that all of the Fs presently interested have at least a K&N. A standard F, TF and Trophy would do nicely. Anyone? Dave |
| Dave |
| Any cost involved? And can someone answer the Q about rolling road being bad for a your car as theres no airflow to keep it cool??? Ian tf160 KJ52 SXE |
| Ian |
| Rolling roads usually have a big mobile fan which they place in front of the car to provide airflow to your radiator. Bruce |
| Bruce Caldwell |
| Cost is probably going to be about £25 per power run. Dave |
| Dave |
| >>>Are rolling roads good for your car? <<< Jodi, Yes it is possible for extended periods of time will see unhealty temp rise in places which would not normally be so hot. The large fan which is placed in front of the car moves a considerable amount of air, but will provide a degree of control mainly to engine temps. However, on the Emerald roller, the runs are done in a matter of seconds and there is next to no strain and certainly less than you could impose under many driving conditions. Rob, Ask Dave Walker to bring up the stored plots of the BRM, I think it has 'T31' as it's title. BTW will someone ask Dave W if and when his move is happening? Rog |
| Roger Parker |
| How much power can emeralds RR take? Would anyone mind if i joined in? Drew Rover 220 turbo |
| Drew Spalding |
| Drew, How much power so you think you've got ;-) Drop me an email and I'll keep you in the loop on what's happening. Cheers, Dave |
| Dave |
| Roger, Dave Walker is planning to move to Thetford, Norfolk. He'll hopefully know within two or three weeks when this will happen. So, our RR day may be in Brixton or it may be in Thetford!! Things will likely go a little quiet on this until we find out. I have an email list of all interested parties (not all read this BBS) and will use this to keep everyone aware of developments. Dave |
| Dave |
| Will do Rog :o) Keep us posted Dave :o) |
| Rob Bell |
Hi guys I've just noticed that Autopoint have a rolling road workshop at Thetford !! http://www.performancecartuning.net/ Wouldn't have thought there was enough business for two rolling roads in one town ? Has anyone used Autopoint before ? Stu |
| Stu |
| Hmm, well spotted Stu, I wonder if Dave Walker knows he's moving next door to such competition! Dave |
| Dave |
This thread was discussed between 16/10/2002 and 20/10/2002
MG MGF Technical index
This thread is from the archive. The Live MG MGF Technical BBS is active now.