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MG TD TF 1500 - 1953 Mark 11 or 1951 TD

Take a look at this car http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=31858&item=4562296224 If in fact the VIN is right, it's a 51, only the wind screen is a 53. To the best of my knowledge this is not a MK 11 either.
Ron Boisvert

The Car No. puts it in Oct. 51. Has the single oil pressure gauge, right for its era. Seems to have a later engine with the horizontal oil filter.
Bud Krueger

When did the speedo/tach(rev counter) change faces?
gordon lawson - TD 27667

This is the info back from the seller

"Thanks for the information. We are researching the car. We will have an answer tomorrow.

The engine number on the xpag type td2 tag is 15428.

The title shows vehicle indemnification number 11207 "

At least he is willing to research it.

Ron Boisvert

Gordon, They changed in Oct of 51
Ron Boisvert

Nice looking car but tail lights are not 53 and there are no Mark II details; id tags, bonnet bulge, dual fuel pump, etc.
Dennis
D F Sexton

Bet he is basing the TD MK II on the fact that the engine number is XPAG/TD2/.... This used to be a very common misconception. Cheers - Dave
David DuBois

To me, there is no clear indication that the car is a Mark II. The carbs seem to be the standard size (larger carbs used on the first Mark II) in addition to the items mentioned by Ron and Bud. The badges, etc. identified by Dennis were not added until the much later '53s. The item that is of the greatest concern is the orientation of the battery holding bracket. Its obvious mislocation is the invitation to a disaster if it can move. There are many more items crying for help which I will not mention other than the car looks like it was in a serious accident when it was hit by a chrome plating shop.
Jim Merz

Here is the response from the seller.

Hello Ron

After extensive research we have learned the following; yes the car is a 1951TD. Although the title says 1953. We will have to have the car inspected by the Oregon State Police to have the car title corrected. We have visually found the chassis number and the engine number appears to coincide with it being a1951.

As most MG car people know these early ones can sometimes be difficult to document. The car was originally imported to Washington State Thru Seattle.

We are sorry for the confusion and we have done everything we can to make this right.

Juan Ruiz

503-653-4030

With a close up of the front end, it can also be seen that there isn't an Andrex shock. As we all know, this is not a MK11

Ron Boisvert

I got a call from this gentelman this morning (he found our local register listing in Google. He is from a used car sales in Oregon, specializing in older "clasics" and sounded very sincere about getting the correct information on the car. I asked if this was the car that was on E-bay and he said it was and that he had heard from some people that the listing wasn't correct. Apparently the maker's plate is missing and he only has what is on the title to go on. I told him where to look to find the car number stamped into the frame extension and that if it matched the number on the title, the car was definitely a 51. It was an interesting conversation and apparent that hte really knows nothing about T series MG, which he readily admits. He did say that the car runs and drives good and that he was interested in getting all the correct information on the car before selling it. Cheers - Dave
David DuBois

That is not the correct windscreen for a 51 is it?
Bruce Cunha

What was the difference in windscreens?
gordon lawson - TD 27667

The windscreen wiper was relocated to the center of the windscreen at 'about' Car No. 22315 (Nov. 52).
Bud Krueger

Oh.. just the location, not the frame itself...
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Actually, yes, the frame itself. There is a penetration hole for the motor shaft. Some of the screw holes along the top are probably different, too.

John
John Redman

Dave:
I think we have put to bed that it is not a MKII. If you are in contact with the gentleman again, please suggest he fits the battery bracket properly, or the pedigree will be moot when it burns.
Safety Fast
Paul
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This thread was discussed between 15/07/2005 and 16/07/2005

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