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MG TD TF 1500 - 4.3:1 Diff conversion
|Can I use a 4.3 banjo diff from an early MGB for the conversion of an original TD diff.|
|I'm not sure John. The early B & the MGA 4.3 C & P are the same & these do fit into the TD banjo. You will need an MGA pinion flange. Google Virgin Rear End Conversion. I had mine done at Craft Differential here & purchased the components from Cambridge Motor Parts in England. This was the best deal on parts that I could find anywhere in the world. I also have a copy of Carl Cederstrand's article that I can lend to you. Cheers|
Peter TD 5801
Dont know if you are familiar with this doco:
No mention of MGB diff components being transferable however provides some interesting options if you can find the vehicles mentioned.
Here is a very explicit answer to your question:
|Never saw a 4.3 in an MGB here. 3.9 is the only ratio I've seen. I have a banjo rear on the shelf from an early MGB and it's a 3.9. 4.3 and 4.1, to my knowledge, were only in the MGAs. Don't know about ratios in other models. PJ|
|4.3 also in early B's PJ. Cheers|
Peter TD 5801
|Didn't know that Peter, thanks for the info. PJ|
|Thank you all for your help.|
|Surprised to learn that the 4.3 was fitted to an early MGB - certainly not here in North America. CWP for both banjp and split axle diffs (TD/TF/MGA/MGB/Magnette) all interchangeable (but not Y-Type)|
I have published the below chart several time on this forum, but it never hurts to do it again ...
A LIST OF INTERCHANGEABLE CROWN-WHEEL AND PINIONS, FOR ALL MGs, FROM THE TD TO THE MGB
CW-P Ratio Teeth P to CW Application MPH/1000 RPM RPM @ 1 mph
5.455 9 : 49 Opt TD
5.125 8 : 41 Std TD 14.80 67.530
4.875 8 : 39 Std TF & ZA/ZB 15.57 64.236
4.556 9 : 41 Tunung Opt for TF 16.66 60.027
4.300 10 : 43 Std MGA 17.65 56.659
4.100 10 : 41 MGA MK II 18.51 54.024
3.909 11 : 43 Std. MGB 19.41 51.509
3.727 11 : 41 Opt MGB 20.36 49.113
If this isn't clear, ask me for a copy in Excel.
Would you be good enough please to send a copy of the above in Excel.
|The following is from the invoice I received in 2011 from Cambridge Motor Parts in England.|
MGB 4.3:1 CWP Banjo Axle 294.50
100897A TR pinion bearing inner 1 28.04
Spacer diff MG Banjo 1 20.85
Bearing pinion outer MG Banjo 1 20.55
88G320 Oil seal 1 2.39
FNZ612 Nut 2 3.90
WL600121 Washer 1 0.59
ATB7066 thrust washer 1 5.77
ATB7102 thrust washer 0.004" 1 1.06
ATB7103 thrust washer 0.006" 1 2.54
ATB7104 thrust washer 0.008" 1 1.19
ATB7105 thrust washer 0.010" 1 1.32
ATB7106 thrust washer 0.012" 1 1.58
ATB7107 thrust washer 0.020" 1 1.65
Bolt crown wheel 8 7.84
CW diff bearing MG TD/TF 2 36.94
GHB158 bearing 2 35.66
266-040 lock tab 4 25.96
Unless this is a typo it shows the 4.3 CWP was also fitted to an MGB. I had heard prior to ordering that the MGA 4.3 was also fitted to the early B. I didn't need all of the thrust washers but got them anyway so I could be sure I had the thickness that was needed. I still have those that were not required. Also got 2 nuts so that the one used during the test assemblies could be discarded as suggested by the Atlanta gurus. Prices are in English pounds. Diff was rebuilt by Craft Differential in Sydney. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
Glad to oblige, but where do I send it? Send me an e-mail at the address at the left.
|Gord - In your list you might want to add that the 4.875 ratio was also standard in the Mark II TD.|
I believe the YB used the '52 and later T axles. That is why there is a triangular tab out by the springs on all but the '51 axles. That was used for the YB shock mount. Also the 1951 T axles are BSF case studs and drain plug.
|Dave Clark Arizona|
Will check it out.
I do know however that there were 6 Y-Types ordered by Ferguesson Motors in Toronto that were made to order, for the Canadian market that were complete with late TD running gear, including magnetic instruments. I've seen one that belongs to an acquaintance, and know of the location of another.
Ergo: its entirely possible that the TD split axle also found its way on to a Y-Type.
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