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MG TD TF 1500 - Arnolt logo - who has pictures?

In the process of restoring my Arnolt heater, I am thinking of trying to make up my own Arnolt logo decal. I think I can create a very high resolution vector file which could be used to produce a decal that looks like the original decal would have looked when new... IF and only if I can get a decent image of an original decal or a high quality picture of original Arnolt advertising.
If someone can supply me with this, I will see what I can do - and whatever I do I will make available to users on this forum free (in electronic form) or at cost (as an actual decal).
So if anybody has a good picture - send it on over!
Geoffrey M Baker

Geoff, you know that you can get excellent Arnolt decals from Ben Cordsen. Don't you? Bud

Ben Cordsen
Cordsen Design Studio
2849 Dunbar Avenue
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
970.229.0891 voice 970.225.1484 fax
www.CordsenDesign.com
Bud Krueger

Bud, I know that. But I believe that by taking an original photo and then converting it to vector format (lines) so that I can then clean up and make the text absolutely perfect - and converting it to b&w, then adding back in color, I can do a job that looks like it was made yesterday. Bens decals look to me like a faded image. I don't mean to criticize his work, at all. But with the right picture I could do a lot with it...
Geoffrey M Baker

Here is an example of a vector file created from an image of an Arnolt logo. I'd like to get better color rendition and make it a little more accurate overall, but it's a start.

Geoffrey M Baker

Not what you want I'm sure

MG LaVerne

From Bud

MG LaVerne

Ben's Arnolt label looks to be a copy of an old label, but it is the best currently available. I bought one but haven't restored my heater yet.

> Geoffrey - I believe that the clean label that you are creating will look better. It looks like the original label was screened onto stamped metal. Is that correct? Don't know a way to reproduce in small quantities.

You might try a font with rounded tips and inside corners to better replicate the stamped metal letters.

Lonnie
TF7211
LM Cook

Once I've got it set the way I want I will start working on the small details - rounding the tips and making the half circle of the R bigger... I'll keep putting up what I'm making so that you can all critique the heck out of it. Right now the font sizes are approx. right, I need to make the outer border white (actually might be an ivory color) and work on the color. Again, if anyone has good pictures of originals, please put them up for me to see! I suspect that the one I am using is not in fact correct for my model (the picture shows stamped fingerpulls for the doors, mine has little clamshell ivory knobs).

Once I've got it more or less right, I might try creating a 3-D effect to give it more the look of stamped metal...
Geoffrey M Baker



Here's a 3D look and I've changed the outer line to white and dropped it on a black background just so it shows up.


Geoffrey M Baker

If the original was metal, why not make a metal one? Just curious.
Steve S

Cost? I wasn't aware that the original was metal until just now...
Geoffrey M Baker

Here is a photo of an original Arnolt label. It appears to have stamped lettering. It would be great to have someone reproduce a quality metal label and offer it to all of us Arnolt heater owners.

JR Mahone

These days, stamped metal in small numbers would probably be prohibitively expensive. However, I do believe I could create a 3D version that could be 3D printed onto plastic, with an adhesive backing. It MIGHT be virtually indistinguishable from an original one.
If there is serious interest, email me, I'll start trying to figure out costs.
IF BY ANY CHANCE someone has an original stamped metal piece that is not currently attached to a heater, and wanted to mail it to me, I could have it professionally scanned, then clean it up, then 3D printed... otherwise, I'll be making something up that is only vaguely approximate...
Geoffrey M Baker

Geoffrey -

A 3D printer is a good solution. Scanning an original label would be ideal. Depends on how thin it could be produced. I would be interested in a 3D label.

You could probably paint the entire 3D label with laquer to make the "letter" color. (or produce the 3D label in the color of the letters) Then paint another coat with enamel to make the background color. Wipe the enamel off of the letters and the outline with paint thinner to produce the finished label.

Some 3D printers csn print metal. Might be able to print as thin as the original stamped metal label. A neighbor sells them and software. Not cheap. I'll talk to him about the project when he is in town. Ain't technology amazing!

Lonnie
TF7211
LM Cook

Arnolt ad from 12/55 R&T. Bud

Bud Krueger

You can make 3-dimensional metal badges at home with some aluminum, a laser printer and an acid solution. I know how it sounds but I know a guy who does it and you can't tell his badges from originals. He makes things like maker's plates, valve cover badges, etc. They look perfect. It does take some time and patience to learn the process though.
Steve S

Interesting, Bud, that there were three different models, and even different prices. What do you suppose the differences were?
Kevin McLemore

What was the chassis modification at #7800?

My TF Service Parts List (Issue 2 July 1955) only lists the rear fuel pump bracket from #1501.

Ian
TF4056
Ian Fry

Only guess that I can make is that it might have to do with the cantilevered mounting bracket. Any chance that the battery tray was changed? Bud
Bud Krueger

I assumed it was a change in the plumbing rather than the heater unit...
J K Barter

I'd like to see ANY Arnolt heater ads. It strikes me that the currently available logo (which I am reproducing) is probably only for the one model - and thus wrong for every other model of Arnolt heater! So if you have any images of Arnolt heater advertising, please either email them to me or post them here; I would like to make up more than one logo!
Geoffrey M Baker

Geoffrey, have you seen any different Arnolt heater logos? I have only seen one.
JKB
J K Barter

So far, I've seen three, as shown in the image...

Geoffrey M Baker

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