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MG TD TF 1500 - Arnolt tin foil name plate

I’m looking into making a better reproduction of the Arnolt embossed tin foil nameplate/patent plate on the front panel of the heaters. Does anyone have a panel that still has an original embossed nameplate that they can take a picture of and provide scale. I will start with making a vinyl sticker that is colorfast. Another option would be to make it in decalcomania and waterslide it onto sticky backed plaques similar to event plaques one would stick to their dashboards. Ultimately I would like to replicate the embossed tinfoil Is someone willing to loan a front panel with an original nameplate so that I can use it to pattern a stamp to make a more correct tin plate I promise no harm will come to it. I simply need to determine the depth of the embossing and color involved and to what extent. It will take more than a day to do this so patience is needed. I’d like to try and make a better representation for restorations

Thanks

Bill Chasser
TD-4834
W A Chasser

Bill, here's an Arnolt heater I just refurbished. It has the original Arnolt label. I glued it in place and I'd be afraid of damaging it trying to remove it. You can barely see the edge if that is of any help. Wish you had posted before I got glue happy.

Regards

Tim


Tim Burchfield

Bill where in California are you located.
I’m in the San Francisco south Bay Area.
My Arnolt heater is still waiting for me to get around to installing it, With our weather it is a very low priority.
It’s been so long since I’ve had it out of the cardboard box I’ll give it a look and see what kind of shap the label is in later today. You can borrow the front plate to get whatever information you need.

I will require a contract signed in blood that no harm will come to Arnolt! :)
G D

Rats. Tim I wished I had known you had one off? How were you able to remove it? I imagine a little spirits would lift the glue. I have never seen a plate in person. You are one lucky guy.

G D. Your offer is most gracious. I live in Sacramento. Can I just give you my first born instead? Oh yeah...that won’t do, I don’t have even one, LOL! I don’t need to pull the foil off. I just need to see it firsthand. This project may be a bit ambitious and may not be feasible but I thought I would give it a try to replicate the foil. They certainly would be easy enough to hand stamp and trim if I can fabricate the dies. Email me at the above address at your convenience

Cheers

Bill Chasser
TD-4834
W A Chasser

I should mention I have five Arnolt heaters at this point and four are different in details related to the front plate design but but all have the pentagon perimeter for the nameplate one heater appears to be a pre 1950 and is very Art Deco looking. It’s about 10% smaller than the typical heater box and has Bakelite knobs on the doors. The front is cast white metal and three dimensional and almost looks like a very early drive-in movie speaker. The tin plate is about 75% of the typical size. I’m wondering if each of the four designs would have had a differing model #? The “350” is all I’ve seen in the foil or reproduction stickers.

Bill Chasser
TD-4834
W A Chasser

Bill, it just peeled off. But I took my time I didn't want to bend it. Here it is before the resto. I just tried to lift a corner with my fingernail and it won't budge. Sorry.

Tim


Tim Burchfield

Bill I need to apologize, I just went to the storage shed and my heater is missing the name plate.

After taking it out of the box I remember I bought it at a Fleamarket 15 years ago that and the motor is frozen is why I was able to afford it. I figured the motor could be replaced with any small 12V motor.

Now I have to start looking for a solution to the name plate also.
G D

The Arnolt nameplate man is Ben Cordsen, sculpart@hotmail.com. Bud
Bud Krueger

G D, No apologies necessary, thank you for your efforts.

Bud. I sent Ben an email several months ago and didn’t receive a response. I have sent him a second email. Do you have an example an example of his product? Is it paper, vinyl, decalcomania or embossed foil?

Bill Chasser
TD-4834
W A Chasser

Bill, I bought one of Ben's emblems for my first Arnolt heater. It looks very nice and original from a few feet away but it is flat. I can't get a picture because that car is in storage. It is certainly the best alternative to the original. I just bought a couple of grab handles and a heater hose fitting so I know he is still in business. His actual email address is sculptart@hotmail.com.

Regards

Tim
Tim Burchfield

Here's a photo of Ben's label.

Tim

Source: http://www.mg-cars.net/mgtd-mgtf1500-bbs/arnolt-heater-2013122720500522944.htm


Tim Burchfield

Tim was the transfer it paper or vinyl or decalcomania (waterslide)?
I sent Ben a second email yesterday. Still no response.

I wasn’t happy with the ones I got off of eBay hence my desired effort to make a quality reproduction

Bill Chasser
W A Chasser

Bill, I'd guess a thick mylar type of material with adhesive backing. The label is rather rigid.

Tim
Tim Burchfield

This thread was discussed between 10/02/2018 and 12/02/2018

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