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MG TD TF 1500 - Can anyone identify these lamps
|Gents, A pair of these lamps were fixed to the front of my '54 TF when I bought it as a "basket case". I know they are not TF driving lights, but where they came from is a mystery. The brass medalian on the top is marked "Butlers, Birmingham. Made in England" The glass lens is maked Lucas and it appears that the bulb is a two filiment, so they are likely to be headlights and not driving lights????|
I have attached an image of the outside and the following post shows the inside.
Any help would be appreciated.
I came across a beautiful pair of SLR 576 driving lamps at a car boot sale a few weeks ago. $5 for the pair. Now they can go on the TF.
|This is the inside view.
|There is a pair of Butlers headlights on ebay (220565115104) and a set of Butler lens for a Rolls/Austin.|
|Also found this "LAND ROVER SERIES ONE Massey Ferguson BUTLERS LAMPS".|
Thanks for the feedback, they look identical, even the colour. Can you tell me the site you went to please.
|Think you got some bodge lamps!|
Lucas light units in Butler housings.
I think the light units/ bulbs are much later period than the lamp housings; based on MC stuff, the three blade system was not used much other than on US sealed beams until the late 50/60s.
Butlers were an old lamp company, eaten by Lucas at some point. They may have continued as a Lucas sub brand after the take over.
I've seen old motorcycles with them, and various Riley RM clubs say they have parts or lamps. Most of what I found in a quick search looks like they latterly mostly supplied tractor/truck manufacturers; there are a couple of EBay/UK sellers with NOS Butler's stuff they say is from the '60s.
Really nice wiring job, can't believe they couldn't find the standard plugs for them.
Here's an interesting bit:
And a sort of mother lode of really cool stuff:
|Fletcher R Millmore|
|Ian, it's on Ebay #140342149477. There quite a few pictures posted.|
|Ian, Are yours for sale? Paul|
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