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MG TD TF 1500 - Count the Octagons!!
In a fit of insomnia & trivia... just wondered what's the record number of Octagon-shaped fixtures found on an MG! eg: TC:- Radiator cap Radiator badge 4x bonnet handles 2x door handles fuel cap handle 4x wheel spinners steering wheel boss dashboard handle (if fitted) sparewheel spinner total = 15 (16) TF:- Radiator cap Radiator badge fuel cap handle 4x wheel spinners steering wheel boss 3 instrument guages 5 dashboard knobs sparewheel spinner dashboard badge total = 18 Have I missed any?? Does TF hold the record?? |
Will |
Hej Will! My oil-stick have an octagone-shaped handle! TF -54 ch# 3356. /Anders |
Anders |
The engine number plate? |
Tatty |
How about the intake manifold casting on the TC-TA-TB-TD |
conrad sanders |
Octagon-shaped fixtures.....or only those with the "MG" logo as well? Tops of carb's are octagon...although the ones I have have an "MG" on them it was not "orginal" ...but still octagonal! I have yet to count all of my "aftermarket" octagons...I will have to do that and get back to you! I have run completly amuck with the little buggers! Cheers David 55 TF 1500 |
David Sheward |
Engine Block data plate on tool box Cheers, Don TD #17700 |
Don |
gas cap lever chris |
Chris Couper |
Whoops. Didn't see that one. Chris |
Chris Couper |
TD: Glove box knob 4 bonnet latches radiator cap radiator badge 5 hub caps gas tank release lever engine tag VIN plate dip stick Steering Wheel boss air cleaner manifold My TD also has Grab handle with MG logo Coffin valve cover with Logo and Octagon filler cap Aluminum side cover with two breather vents each with MG logo Friends of Cecil Kimber sticker someone applied to the side of my TD at MG2001 (without my permission). Blake |
Blake J. |
Whoa, good response Guys, thanks! Let's limit it to "factory" provided Octagons only, not DIY aftermarket units (or else we'll have about 40,000 different variations!!). TD:- Glove box knob 4 bonnet latches radiator cap radiator badge 5 hub caps gas tank release lever engine tag VIN plate dip stick Steering Wheel boss intake manifold --- total 18 Ok, confirm looks like I missed: TC:- intake manifold engine number plate dipstick VIN plate --- new total of 19 (20) Also possibly I'm told the TCs with bumpers might have a MG crest on the rear one... anyone confirm? That'll add 1 more. TF:- engine number plate dipstick VIN plate --- new total 21 --> still holds record Clocked 70+ mi in the TF on the weekend (glorious antipodean spring weather), got spotted on the road by the local TF Registrar whom I've never met before (Hi Ian!!) and then also noticed the 3 instruments each have an octogon on the faceplate... should we count these too?? |
Will |
A couple of corrections from my TF: TF 1500 (XPEG engine) No octogon on the engine block next to the number plate: -1 Octogon on exhaust manifold, but no octogon on intake manifold: no change * NOTE: there isn't much room on the intake manifold for an octogon, perhaps the original list should have said 'exhaust manifold' instead of 'intake manifold'. |
Mark B. |
Correction: The number plate on the TF is octogonal, of course. But don't earlier XPAG engines also have an MG octogon cast into the block somewhere? I thought it was near the number plate, but I'm not sure. |
Mark B |
The MGTC EXU export model had MG Ocogon on rear bumper |
Robert Dougherty |
The early XPAG engine has the octagon cast on the side of the engine behind the generator. |
Gene Gillam |
XPAG Engine Octagon: Leads me to believe they must have found another use for the engine in an OEM and filed (or filled) the octogon right off of the casting for the later XPAG's :-) Chris |
Chris Couper |
Doubt the T Series would hold the record. Dads J2 had lots more than his TF does. Unfortunately he dont have the J2 any more so I cant count them. At least they got rid of the colour co-ordination of the early cars. Green Paint, Seats, Trim, Carpet, Hood, Wheels, Brake drums etc etc etc |
Paul |
Add MG octagon on TD exhaust manifold. Also early TD's have the octagon cast into the block. |
Blake J. |
Hi all, Can't believe that no one has picked up on this one. The bezel on the instruments on the dash of the TF is indeed octagnal as already mentioned, but in addition there is an octagon under the glass on all three instruments as well. Cheers - Dennis - Sacramento |
Dennis Rainey |
Paul from New Zealand is correct, the pre-war MGs make the T series cars seem like pikers. I had a 36 PB and all the knobs were octagon shaped, along with the side lights and all the instrument bezels. Cheers - Dave |
David DuBois |
Sorry Will, Guess that I should read each post thoroughly. Dennis - Sacramento |
Dennis Rainey |
After counting octegons I'm missing the bezel on the center instruments on the dash of my TF. Is there any one that found an extra one in his box of spares? |
Jay Dyck |
Sounds like you gents want someone to go count 'em on some prewar cars... hokay, next Concours here I come with clipboard & pencil in hand. :) |
Will |
I only counted 21 on Dads 1933 J3 But his SA saloon has THIRTY It would be FOURTY if it was the early model with the ten opening bonnet side panels. Note: The wire wheel centre-locks on these two cars have the Rudge-Whitworth trade mark, not the MG emblem. Cheers, Matthew. |
Matthew Magilton |
Can't add anything, except what a neat thread. Really enjoyed reading it a then going out a looking the TD over. Mike |
Mike Razor |
FWIW: Don't all TA-TDs have a stylized ocatagon for the center instrument panel? Eight sides with the sides curved to match the speedo/tach and the top and bottom curved to fit the facia (dash) Blake |
Blake J. |
Slight error in my previous post: The SA does have MG emblems on the wheel hubs (not the J3)and I didn't count the gearbox dipstick on the SA. Also most of the early SA's had eight bonnet side panels, not ten. So an early SA has at least FOURTY THREE octagons not counting the four eight sided rectangular door handle bases. I suspect a K-series saloon should be able to beat this number with extra octagons on the dash and in the door upholstery as well as on the rocker cover. Which standard MG has the LEAST octagons? I counted eight on my 1965 MG 1100 (four with the hubcaps off) Cheers, Matthew. |
Matthew Magilton |
Theres only 10 on our MGF front and rear badges wheel centres steering wheel dashboard speedo rev counter Really continuing a decrease in the number of them. Soon they wont be on them at all |
Paul |
"Which standard MG has the LEAST octagons?" Me-thinks... "Old Number 1" :-) |
Will |
Current TD count: Glove box knob 4 bonnet latches radiator cap radiator badge 5 hub caps gas tank release lever engine tag VIN plate dip stick Steering Wheel boss Intake manifold Exhaust manifold Central dash plate (stylized, but 8 sided) Engine (early engines only) Total 20 or 21 Anyone notice there are 8 screws holding the dashboard on TA-TD? |
Blake J. |
MGA: Varies alot depending on model and equipment, but for a standard MGA: Grill badge 2 cowl vents centers and the G within (4 total) engine valve cover VIN tag Steering wheel boss radio blanking plate Boot lid badge Total: 10 Twin cam: Grill badge 2 cowl vents centers and the G within (4 total) one on each valve cover VIN tag Steering wheel boss radio blanking plate Boot lid Total:11 Wire wheel or twin cam/deluxe MGAs can have four more octagons depending on the type of knock-on used. Blake |
Blake J. |
For Blake: I'll bet that the guy applying Friends of Cecil Kimber tags is a prominent member of the NEMGTR (name on request to me directly) - I'm sure I saw him stick one on my TD at MG2001. But it's not a sticker, it's a magnetic thing that comes off without effort or damage to the finish. Certainly mine did, although if yours is still on the car 15 months later there might be a problem. No T-series owner would deface someone else's car. I'm sure the intent was just to give you a souvenier Ted |
Ted Jackson |
Right on the pre-war MG having lots more. My PB rocker cover alone has 10. Lew |
Lew Palmer |
Lew, What is the total on your car? Matthew. |
MatthewMagilton |
My TF has 25 factory octagons, my YB has 28. That is a total of 53 in MyGarage. Larry |
Larry V. Brown |
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