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MG TD TF 1500 - Cycle fender brackets

I'm building a 52 TD vintage racer and want to use cycle fenders. The fenders are easy to find but the brackets evidently must be home made. Does anyone know of a source?? Cheers, JL
James Lea

James - my fenders are articulated and may not be exactly what you're looking for, but here's what the carriers look like - no plans, we just bent them up.

Two pictures.


Dave Jorgensen

James, here's the second picture.

Dave


Dave Jorgensen

Nice work Dave, I like the simplicity of design. Would you be willing to sketch them out in more detail? What was your source for fenders?

James, The last time I checked with the vintage racing groups (VRG, VDCA, VARAC), cycle fenders had to be fixed to the frame and could not move with the front wheels. Shame really as Dave's look great.

Tony
M A Cove

Yes, very nice work Dave but Tony is correct. I run with the VSCCA and the brackets must be on the frame. I too would like to know the source for your fenders. The best I have found so far are on the Hot Rod sites. Cheers, JL
James Lea

James and Tony - the front fenders were actually a continental kit from a mid-30's Packard that was cut in half, then heated and stretched. They were originally built and put on a friend's TC in 1971, then after numerous owners and fender changes, I got hold of them in 2006. Because they're articulated, I can run them with minimal clearance, as you'll see in the picture. Tony, I'll do a sketch of the carriers - it'll be this weekend.

If I was doing it again, however, I think I'd go with a real set of cycle fenders - something with a bit more torsional stability. If you search for 'motorcycle fenders' on eBay, you'll get a huge selection of steel fenders with all the work done. Here's one that I just pulled up - I've used these guys for Norton parts, and they're quite reliable.

Cheers,
Dave

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Dave Jorgensen

Hello James
Here are a couple of shots of the lower brackets I've fabed up to hold MGTC type front wing braces. The TC braces will need a bit of modification, especially at the outer ends, but I like the look, especially with the TC headlight brackets bringing the lights closer in towards the radiator. Haven't finished them as yet, still looking for that perfect set of cycle fenders.
Tony is correct about vintage race sanctioning groups not allowing cycle fenders attached to the wheel, unless of course, that style was original to the vehicle. Also have to be the same material as the original body material, in the TD's case, steel. I've seen several types of 'ribbed' cycle fenders on custom motorcycle parts sites but they're not cheep, and not sure if the radius and width would work. Just my opinion but I think a ribbed front finder looks better but I've seen plenty of flat top one as well.
Regards
Hiram


Hiram Kelley

Here's a shot from the front where I'M testing bracket and brace fit. Hope to have this sucker vintage rece ready by end of next year. Of course I've said the same thing last year and the year before as well. Oh and I'm re-doing the front splash apron as well but that's however, still a work in progress (lol).
Regards
Hiram


Hiram Kelley

Hi Hiram
At last! An American with a garage as tidy as mine. I was getting depressed at the pristine examples on display.
Regards
Mike


M Sutton

Hello Mike, actually I tidied it up a bit for the picture (lol).
I see yours comes equipped with a guard dog as well.
Hiram
Hiram Kelley

Shoot, sorry about that Mike, hit submit before I attached the picture.
Hiram


Hiram Kelley

Although I would imagine the prices are out of this world you might want to contact Barry Walker: http://www.barrywalker.com/cat.asp?cat=44


I managed to buy my stays many years ago from a fellow in Australia (no longer supplying the parts) and the fenders were custom made by a fellow in Arizona (also no longer making them). Glad I bought when I did.

Front view


Gene Gillam

And side view


Gene Gillam

Hello Gene, would you happen to have any close up shots of the rear stay at the back of the fender, that's what I have been trying to find a good clear picture of! And what type of bolt or attachment is used to fasten the stay to the fender?
Hiram
Hiram Kelley

Gene. Beautiful!! Are those Manley Ford headers?? JL
James Lea

Hiram. Here's a shot of the rear stay on a J2 which is similar to what you may need. I would like to use the same rubber mounting method and should be able to find the rubber parts in the UK or make something work from here. Cheers, JL


James Lea

Thanks James. Good luck on your project.
Maybe well see each other on track sometime.My wife still has family back east and the MG Vintage Racers group has focus events back east most years.
Hiram
Hiram Kelley

Hiram. Limerock is our home track. Cheers, JL
James Lea

Hiram,
I'll try to get a photo of the rear stay tomorrow but I can say that the bolt is the same as the one James shows in his J2 photo.



James,
No, those were made for me by Frank Mount in Canada...but I do have a set of Manley's headers for my other car when I finish it. The major difference is that these (Frank's) exit over the frame instead of between the frame and the sump.
Gene Gillam

Thanks Gene, any pictures you can post would be great. Is that chrome fitting that attaches fender to bracket similar to a carriage bolt, just with a larger diameter, flatter head?
Manley Ford does get around doesn't he, or at least his headers do- I've got a set of his as well.
Thanks
Hiram
Hiram Kelley

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