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MG TD TF 1500 - Ebay Lucas Fuses
|There is an ad currently running on Ebay in which the following appears:|
"Here are new old stock genuine Lucas glass fuses with paper inserts in 35 amp and 1" length with pointed ends".
"These are NOS from a factory package, never used. These are the proper fuses for MG TC TD TF ..."
"These are also the correct type for a show winning car."
This information is incorrect as I've been advised by a very knowledgeable TF restorer that the correct Lucas 35 amp fuses for the TD & the TF are 1 1/4" long. Apparently they will fit but they are NOT the original or correct fuse. FYI. Cheers
Peter TD 5801
|I wouldn't think pointed-end fuses were correct in any event, are they? I've never had a LBC that had pointed Lucas fuses.|
|I'll leave this one to the experts Kev. Just passing on the results of my research. Cheers|
Peter TD 5801
|Lucas glass fuses with pointed ends are correct for TFs and little doubt they are correct for TCs,and TDs as well.|
Apart from my own experience,examination of original cars such as TF9052 (Frank Cronin's photo file) in USA just confirm what we already know. Fuses have generally been replaced over the years on most T types with the later type of fuse.
The original 35amp and 50amp pointed end fuses are indeed,unfortunately a rare beast today.
I have just completely rebuilt the TF 1500s 700 headlamps-bowls,chrome rims,all screws,retainer retainer rings,Lucas sense/reflector inserts,gaskets etc. Suppliers around the world do sell parts such as the glass/lense reflector units as 'original' to particular models.
Even though these inserts units are 'Lucas',they invariably are not the correct ones that were used re Factory. For example,the newer,later type of insert has the '700 Headlamp' printing set tin the glass just
below the Lucas centre bullseye. The genuine originals have this wording on the bottom edge of the glass insert!
I know,I know,many will not be concerned with such detail. However,for those that are into true Concours work it may be worth remembering that many original parts have been replaced on our cars over the years.
|WSM Figures N16, N21, and N22 show pointy-end fuses for TD's. Here's a picture that shows the 1-1/4 inch fuses that were in my '53 from when I bought it in 1957 until I re-wired it a couple of years ago.|
Well figured. I hope you kept those fuses if they were in working order!?
|My TD had original pointed ended fuses. Not sure of length. Doug Pelton had some a while back. George|
|My TD 29350 has one flat and one pointed. The spares are each flat.|
Yes, the old fuses are still in working order and I kept them, but I put in new fuses for everyday use.
|Here are my 35 and 50 amp Lucas paper fuses. Note the ends are not pointed.
|The older Lucas fuses had an issue. I had heard about it from a friend who found one on a Morris Minor. I had one on my Jaguar MK XI. |
The fuse element forms a couple with the end solder. Corrosion between the two metals results and the fuse opens.
If you look at the fuse it appears to be good. If you measure it with a multimeter it measures open.
Careful examination of the end will disclose a dark ring around the center fuse element.
If I had not known about it I would still be looking.
|How long are they Chris? Cheers|
Peter TD 5801
Chris,your TD has been rebuilt at least once? Did these blunt
ended Fuses come with the car ex Factory or were they replaced at some stsge?
On TFs,the 50amp Lucas Fuse is for the horn circuit. Is your 50amper
placed in the Fuse Block for the horn circuit?
Peter,they look like 1and 1/4" approx. to me.
|Joe,thank you for the alert in the Series TD Series TF The MG midget|
Workshop Manual No. AKD580A, Section 15 clearly depicts a TDs
Fuse Block with the pointed end Fuses.
Pictures in the WSM and Operation Manual show terminals A1-A2 on the upper side of the fuse block, and the A3-A4 terminals on the lower side, and that's the way my car is. Yours seems to have the opposite orientation. Is there a reason for that?
I have just measured Lucas 35A and Lucas 50A fuses contained
in their small original red Lucas boxes. They are a touch under 1 and 1/4" in length. There were ten(10) fuses in each of these boxes when sold by Lucas. However, I also have a few Lucas fuses not in their boxes with blunt ends and measure 1 and 1/8".
|Thanks Rob. We seem to be getting very close to determining just what was originally fitted. Cheers|
Peter TD 5801
|Egads. My fuse block has been upside down for 45 years! How embarrassing :-(|
Joe: Thanks for noticing.
I hope I can correct this with the wiring as it is. If not I am going to be stuck with this. And I have a dash cover to I will have to fight or take out.
Rob: These are replacements from the 60's. I had a stash of them.
|Chris, your fuse block was probably meant for a TD going to Australia. Jud|
|J K Chapin|
|I will be living with this upside down fuse block forever. The wires have been trimmed and there is no way they will reach the other side when it is rotated.|
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