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MG TD TF 1500 - Fender Piping
Is the piping one continuous piece from front to back where the fenders and running boards meet the body? PJ |
Paul S Jennings |
There is joint just in front of the rear fender. Go to the archives and put this in for pictures. TF fender piping joint |
MG LaVerne |
Thanks LaVerne, that works well for me, as I want to put the rear fenders on now. I want to wait for my chrome to come back before doing the front fenders. I don't want to work over them. PJ |
Paul S Jennings |
PJ, The rear wings were installed to the tub when assembled at the body plant with the piping attached ready to be lowered to the chassis. There is a joint close to where the running board is. On my original piping, a wire was used to stiffen the piping to get the curve where the piping bends at the bottom of the rear wing to the running board. Most restorations I've seen just use continuous piping from back to front. A couple of pictures of original piping. |
Frank Cronin |
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Frank Cronin |
Here is an all original TF showing the joint in the piping by the rear fender. They also used an aluminum wire several inches long to form the sharp turn at the fender.
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D. Sander |
I added this little tidbit to the TF Nitty Details page. http://www.mg-cars.org.uk/mgtf/mgtf_nitty.htm |
Christopher Couper |
This is the remains of the original piping I took off my car. The wire is still inside the rubber tube. There was a little overlap of fabric at the join. Matthew. |
M Magilton |
My trimmer has made up piping for my car using the same red vinyl as the door panels. This was marine quality. The core is a continuous plastic tube and he has joined the vinyl at bottom of the wing. We found this useful for two reasons. Firstly we didn't have a length of vinyl long enough for one continuous piece and secondly we were able to set the piping flaps at differing angles at he turn from the horizontal (wing to body) and the vertical (running board to body). Jan T |
J Targosz |
Where does the piping end by the gas tank? Does it go all the way down? If so, how is it secured, since there are no bolts toward the end? PJ |
Paul S Jennings |
PJ, All the way down |
Frank Cronin |
OK, Thanks Frank, much appreciated! Photo explains it very well. I considering doing a single run from front to back, rather than split it in front of the rear fender. PJ |
Paul S Jennings |
A single piece from back to front and round behind the front apron. If you really must you can put a cut in it where original cars had a joint, but I don't see the point as it does more harm than good. Dave H |
Dave Hill |
If you use a continuous piece how do you fit it where the rear wing ends and the running board starts? I trial fitted the wings and running boards using a spare length of piping and even with a section of the flap removed had to twist the piping to orientate the flaps properly. Even then it didn't look good. Jan T |
J Targosz |
Had no problem whatsoever other than the usual creasing on the very tight internal bend on the front of the rear wing, but every TF I've seen has that. Why would you want to twist it? Dave H |
Dave Hill |
But you won't be able to put in the stiffener wire/rod to keep the bend real tight if it's one piece. |
Christopher Couper |
Not so. As long as the flap is wide enough and the fit is tight. You have to slit the flap around the bend and make the transition from horizontal to vertical without twisting the bead at all. Clamp it up tight and you need no stiffener. That was my experience anyway. Dave H |
Dave Hill |
LaVerne... Did you remove the piping in the corner joint (rear fender/running board) when you installed the aluminum "spatt's"? Best regards Rod Murray 54 TF |
Rodney G Murray |
Nope. I think if I were to be doing this again, I would put a joint at the point where front fender meets the running board. I have had to have the front fenders (wings/mud guards) off several times and it would be nice to test the mechanical work without worrying about the flapping piping.
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MG LaVerne |
See what I mean.
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MG LaVerne |
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