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MG TD TF 1500 - Floorboard to pedal box gasket

Dear folks,
See (in the photo)the hole in the gasket and capture nut just forward of the master cylinder? What gets bolted there?

Just ordered heat/sound seal for the foot panel/tranny/driveshaft covers. Should have the TF floor completely installed before football on Sunday.

thanks,
Tyler

C.T. Irwin

For the right front hole, I have a floorboard screw/washer that fits first through the metalpedal excluder retainer plate, then the rubber excluder/floorboard/rubber in your picture, etc. Nothing in the back hole on may car, but not sure that is correct. George
George Butz

These two pictures may help

Forgot the picture
JA Benjamin

Number 1

FHMS holds floor board.


JA Benjamin

Second pix.
Complete Assy

JA Benjamin

We've had this one before. Both holes are directly above captive nuts. Bud

Bud Krueger

okay, From top to bottom: pedal excluder retaining plate (PERP), rubber fume excluder, floorboard, then floorboard to pedal box pad.Two BSF flathead machine screws hold down the PERP: one is at the front right, and the other is forward of the MC.I see 4 other screws in JA's photo holding down the PERP. What type/size are they?

thanks,this is great help!
Tyler
C.T. Irwin

All,
What does screw into the capture nut just forward of the MC? My original floorboards do not have a hole drilled there. Also, I assume the excluder retaining plate is screwed down by 1 machine screw (in front) and about 5 small wood screws, correct?
thanks,
Tyler
C.T. Irwin

Tyler, see http://www.ttalk.info/MGTDFloorboards5.htm . You are missing a hole. Take look at the version6 pdf file for the latest details. Bud
Bud Krueger

Area of interest:


Bud Krueger

Tyler, the plate is held down only by wood screws. Bud
Bud Krueger

Tyler, the early TDs do not have the recess in the floor boards and use a cover that slides to access brake reservoir. Some have suggested the plate attaches with that screw.
Rich (TD 3983) Taylor

Great info. Since I'm in the middle of replacing my pedal excluder and carpet, I'll see if the rear hole aligns and is useable. George
George Butz

Tyler and I have had a few email swaps off forum. Here's what I found and sent to him:

Roy doesn't show a hole at that point. Looking at some images that I took of that area on 'the53' that I totally redid shows that I did put a screw through the rubber and into the captive nut. Not a flathead screw through the floorboard, a machine screw w/flat washer. I can see the depression of the rubber looking through the cutout. Not likely for it to have interfered with the screws through the plate, it's below the floorboard. At any rate, that's what I did, but as they say - YMMV. Bud


Bud Krueger

Here's the hole (photo). Guess I'll put a machine screw into it to secure the rubber pad a little more.
Tyler

C.T. Irwin

I'm reactivating this thread. I've just ordered a new rubber fume excluder and rubber base.

My question is... does the screw hole at the back of the rubber plate correspond with hole "B" in the floorboards? If so (and please correct me if I am wrong), then the screw that fits hole B passes through the pedal excluder retaining plate (PERP), rubber fume excluder, rubber base, bellhousing shroud, floorboard, then floorboard to pedal box captive nut?

Because on mine currently the screw B mounts through the bellhousing shroud, floorboard and locks to the captive nut at the back of the pedal box.

Whew! That's a lot if correct. I've already assembled my floorboards and bellhousing shroud, so I guess I may need to redo this...
Geoffrey M Baker

Geoff -

The screw does not pass through the pedal excluder retainer plate nor through the pedal excluder rubber.

I believe that it does pass through the thick rubber gasket (I forgot). It passes through the bellhousing shroud and the wood floorboard into the pedal box.

The rubber pedal excluder and retainer plate are secured to the wood floorboard with short woodscrews and trim washers as shown in JA Benjamin's "Second pix." This lets the rubber be positioned best to allow full motion of the clutch and brake pedals.

A rectangular cut-out in the carpet fits around the pedal shafts and stuffs under the bottom "accordion" fold in the rubber excluder. The carpet covers the excluder plate.

Lonnie
TF7211
LM Cook

OOPS update -

The thick rubber goes UNDER the floorboard.

I made some notes to revise my floorboard fastener diagram when I reinstalled my floorboards after rebuilding my gearbox. I didn't change my diagram and now I can't find my notes. Not sure if the thick rubber is held by a floorboard screw and washer or if the path of the floorboard screw is as follows:

1 - bell housing cover
2 - floorboard
3 - thick rubber gasket
4 - into the pedal box.

Lonnie
TF7211
LM Cook

$%@$%!!
Guess I've got to take the shroud cover and floorboard up again to install the rubber gasket.
Oh well...
Geoffrey M Baker

First of all, does the thick rubber gasket come with holes cut out for screws? If not, seems like you might just as well glue it to the floorboard and not worry, or at most install with a hole for screw B.
If the rubber gasket comes with precut holes for screws, do you do want to put a hole through the floorboard where Tyler has his white arrow in the picture? Seems like a good idea, because a screw just holding the rubber down, with the head underneath the floorboard doesn't seem like a strong fastener to me (the machine screw head would just rub through the rubber). Wouldn't it be better to add another hole in the floorboard and use another 1/4 bsf 26tpi machine screw with washer to lock gasket and floorboard together? Then you have two machine screws holding floorboard to gasket to captive nuts on the pedal box.
It's all a little confusing...
Geoffrey M Baker

This thread was discussed between 15/01/2014 and 11/11/2015

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