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MG TD TF 1500 - Hood Tack Rail
Can anyone let me know the thickness of the rear hood tack rail. I have made one 3/4" thick but suspect it needs to be 1" or so in order to take the screws that secure the hood p.s. for you guys in the states by "hood" I mean the canvas roof! Cheers Jan T |
Jan Targosz |
Jan Just measured the TF. The inner faces are vertical and the measurements are: Ht 13/16" Base width 1.5" Top width 1. 1/8th. With the rails are covered with stout vinyl. John |
John James |
What a great forum..... |
g.b.lawson '53TD |
g.b. - the site is so great it must tempt you out of your bed very early in the morning to see what us Brits are posting at GMT. Possibly a more realistic answer is you have just come in from the workshop at 5.30 am local time after working all night trying to get the T series doors to shut properly. Cheers Jan T |
Jan Targosz |
Jan It would probably be better if you referred to us here in the states as the “Colonies or new World”. Guys like Gordon from Canada would not feel left out. Also if you went to the local hard wood lumber supplier to buy this tack rail, you would ask for a 1 X 2 (1 inch by 2 inch) ash. What you would get would be a ¾ inch by 1 ½ inch piece of oak. Go figure. If you can not locate one 13/16 inch thick just add some padding to the ¾ inch that is what I did to correct this. Hope this helps. John |
John C. Hambleton III |
Jan, Are you located anywhere near LAPHROAIG. I have a lifetime lease on plot #18991 and if I can get myself overthere again they will give me a map of where it's located. Probably anice area for driving an MGTD. GReg & grimm |
G.J. Cenzer |
Greg, It is 8.30 pm and I have had a long day and yes I am very close to Laphroaig. It's not the place though it's a glass of Laphroaig malt whisky. Your posting reminded me I had a bottle in the cupbord and I am just about to toast you. The place Laphroig is on Islay and not too far away from Glasgow where I live - as the crow flies but many arduous miles by car, including a ferry trip. Your good health! Jan T |
J Targosz |
"Much to Do About Nothing" Back to the original thread . The original lumber is ash ( the same on both sides of the pond) And whil;e it is true soft woods are under doimensioned 3/4" to inch , hardwoods i.e. ash come 13/16 ( that's why the original odd dimension) Whe ordering just assurre you getting hardwood/furntiure grade and you will get your 13/16" |
Jon L |
Jan, there are no arduous miles in Scotland. I have been there and every mile is glorious. I only wish I had my TF with me at the time and not a Hertz F**t. Cheers, Matthew. |
Matthew Magilton |
Jon L. Do I detect from your quote from the english bard a little annoyance that this thread has deviated from the original theme ? I have been subscribing to these pages for about 4 years now and find the generalised messages and especially the banter most amusing. The fall back position is that if I ask whether the cross slots on the screws on my dash board should be horizontal / vertical or at 45 deg someone will let me know within the hour. Cheers Jan T |
J Targosz |
I'll bite, which is it? (horizontal/vertical or at a 45 degree?) |
Evan Ford - TD 27621 |
forgot to add ----> ;^) |
Evan Ford - TD 27621 |
Jan I would like to re-phrase my post to you on this subject, I hope, that I did not offend anyone? Hope this helps. John |
John C. Hambleton III |
Oh yea almost forgot! That would be 13/16 of an inch species being ash. Hope this helps? John |
John C. Hambleton III |
How did i miss the continuation of this thread??? Here in Canada (The Dominion), when you ask for ash, you get ash... (we make inwhales and out whales for canvas and cedar canoes from it...as well as our thwarts...strong and light). If you ask for it "rough" you will get actual 1"x 2"... if it is dressed, you will get a dimension just less by the amount to get all the saw marks out. Am sure my dash screws are chrome "phillips" with a chrome dished washer...and i made sure all the "crosses" are straight vertical/horizontal. (of course, i straighten the lighter in my "other" car to have the little smoke thingie curling "up". (hmmmm... anal maybe????) Gee, i don't own a lease (can you own a lease) on a portion of property in Laphroaig, but i have a square inch of land in the Yukon somewhere....good old Sargeant Preston!!!!!!! |
gordon.b.lawson '53TD |
I thought Jan was talking about the screws in the center dash which are smooth. I don't own a lease in Laphroaig either -- but I do have a place in Arkansas -- oh yea, and a star named after me coutesy of my wife's charity donation. Regards, Dennis |
D F Sexton |
Jan If you look at the “MG midget Workshop Manual” part Number AKD580A on page 8 and 9 “ General Information”, you will see (with the aid of a magnifying glass ) that these screws are slotted and not Philips head. The one to the right of the instrument cluster panel is set at about the 3 o’clock position and the one to the left at about the 1 o’clock position. Checking the Abingdon Spares and Moss catalogs they appear to be Philips head page 39 and page 48 respectably. They appear to be randomly set, some at 12o’clock, 3 o’clock, 6 o’clock, and 9 o’clock positions. Some set at 10 o’clock, 2 o’clock, 4 o’clock and 8 o’clock positions. There may be some production date where the factory switched from slotted wood screws to Philips head, although, I am not a where of this production day switch. When I ordered new screws from Moss Motors during my restoration they sent Philips head. Does this make my car not original? Also, Jan if you don’t, mind I have a question for Gordon? Why aren’t they called ash canoes? I know your everyday job is in the theater business. Do you stain the ash to look like cedar? I too own one square inch of the Yukon Territory courtesy of Sergeant Preston. Always hoped to go camping there. I may even drive the TD. I still have the certificate that I believe Kellogg issued in my archives strong box... Hope this helps and clarifies this matter. John PS It’s raining today and the gas tank sending unit is leaking again. Drip, Drip. |
John C. Hambleton III |
The canoes are made of cedar...ribs and planking and covered with canvas (6 oz)... the gunwhales and decks and thwarts are ash or hickory (sometimes oak, but that is pretty heavy). Nowadays they make cedar "strippers", but very few "cedar stip" canoes...strippers are made of 1/4" thick cedar strips glued together over forms. |
gordon.b.lawson '53TD |
Oh, wow, sorry I'm late getting back to this thread but I had a Peterborough cedar strip canoe back in the '50's in Belle River, Ontario along with my 1952 MGTD. You know back then I never got stopped in the '50's by the OPP whilst driving my Brit cars but back in MoTown I was always getting stopped. Greg & Grimm |
G.J. Cenzer |
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