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MG TD TF 1500 - mice in battery box?

Okay, here's one for the books! I took the pic below today. What you see is Dcon mouse poisen in my battery box! I had laid out 3 cardboard containers of the stuff around the garage over the winter. All 3 are now empty and mouse droppings are in the Dcon boxes. I assume the little guys are dead. However I DID NOT put any Dcon in my battery box!!! If I did I certainly would not have just dumped it in like this! There are no mouse droppings in the battery box nor any evidence of mice under the seats, etc. My question is has anybody else ever seen something like this? Maybe the mice physically carried this stuff from around the garage to my battery box because the battery was on a trickle charger (not shown) that was in this exact location because the charger gets warm? Note that the pellets are intact rather than chewed up. Are mice that smart?

Strange eh?
Ed



efh Haskell

Ed, go to a fleet farm or some farm ranch store and get really good mice and rat killer. All mice do with DeCon is hoard it for use later on. The stuff in my opinion is a real loser.Get a heavy duty poison like farmers use. Also there is some stuff on the market that comes in small bags and mice hate the smell. I found it at a local hardware store.
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Tom M. Can you give us a clew as to the name, mfg. etc. of that stuff? Moth balls only work marginally.
T.I.A.
Bob
Bob Jeffers

Tom, so are you saying you agree with my idea that the mice are hoarding in my battery box? (I'm new to this mouse thing having lived in Arizona for 33 years where mice didn't exist or the hawks took care of them?)
efh Haskell

Will get the name of the stuff and post...
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Sure you don't have hamsters? :-)

I think most rodents will hoard if they find a good "food" supply.

The DeCon will work, just not as fast as the stuff you buy in the farm store. Eventually you may see dead rodents out in the open; they seem to come out to die rather than stay in their holes.
JE Carroll

BarBait Don't even unwrap it. Let the damn rodents chew through the plastic...they will.
LaVerne

Don't know how ture this is:
I was told to put water "outside" of where you have baited because it make them thirsty. That way they die outside your building.
I never did that as only place I had a problem was a rental. Neighbor I rented from had 2 small dogs I was concerned about them.

What you show is a new one on me!
David Sheward

Dave, main problem with water dish here in Gods country is it is solid most of the year, especially in winter when it is 25 below....LaVerne you are right about barbait.
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Okay, here's one for the books! I took the pic below today. What you see is Dcon mouse poisen in my battery box! I had laid out 3 cardboard containers of the stuff around the garage over the winter. All 3 are now empty and mouse droppings are in the Dcon boxes. I assume the little guys are dead. However I DID NOT put any Dcon in my battery box!!! If I did I certainly would not have just dumped it in like this! There are no mouse droppings in the battery box nor any evidence of mice under the seats, etc. My question is has anybody else ever seen something like this? Maybe the mice physically carried this stuff from around the garage to my battery box because the battery was on a trickle charger (not shown) that was in this exact location because the charger gets warm? Note that the pellets are intact rather than chewed up. Are mice that smart?

Strange eh?
Ed



efh Haskell

Ed, go to a fleet farm or some farm ranch store and get really good mice and rat killer. All mice do with DeCon is hoard it for use later on. The stuff in my opinion is a real loser.Get a heavy duty poison like farmers use. Also there is some stuff on the market that comes in small bags and mice hate the smell. I found it at a local hardware store.
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Tom M. Can you give us a clew as to the name, mfg. etc. of that stuff? Moth balls only work marginally.
T.I.A.
Bob
Bob Jeffers

Tom, so are you saying you agree with my idea that the mice are hoarding in my battery box? (I'm new to this mouse thing having lived in Arizona for 33 years where mice didn't exist or the hawks took care of them?)
efh Haskell

Will get the name of the stuff and post...
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Sure you don't have hamsters? :-)

I think most rodents will hoard if they find a good "food" supply.

The DeCon will work, just not as fast as the stuff you buy in the farm store. Eventually you may see dead rodents out in the open; they seem to come out to die rather than stay in their holes.
JE Carroll

BarBait Don't even unwrap it. Let the damn rodents chew through the plastic...they will.
LaVerne

Don't know how ture this is:
I was told to put water "outside" of where you have baited because it make them thirsty. That way they die outside your building.
I never did that as only place I had a problem was a rental. Neighbor I rented from had 2 small dogs I was concerned about them.

What you show is a new one on me!
David Sheward

Dave, main problem with water dish here in Gods country is it is solid most of the year, especially in winter when it is 25 below....LaVerne you are right about barbait.
Tom Maine (TD8105)

Red squirrels move in the barn every year. They don't seem to take bait but are suckers for peanut butter on a rat trap. We also get the occasional rat from the dairy farm next door, they get killed either way. Our dog is a pretty good mouser, especially in the winter. He digs through the snow to find them and then kills them by tossing them high in the air and crunching them when he catches them on the way down, somewhat like I see foxes do.
JE Carroll

I used to install a lot of electric gate operators at airport using airport transfers tunbridge wellss and the like. Rodents are a big winter problem. Many of the operators require an electric purpose made heater to keep the gear oil at a good flowing temp in the winter. Rodents love it. Mice , rabbits, etc. and they can squeeze into the smallest openings. Once inside they nest where its warm and the chew the crap out of all the wiring. I once pulled the cover off one that the owner reported wasn't working. Rabbit flew out of the inside. Scared the crap out of me. Chewed all the wiring to hell, pellets all over the place. Miracle he didn't get a 460 volt permanent. Best thing you could do is get Bonnie a cat for a buddy. Got two out door jobs here and haven't seen a mousekateer around here in 16 years except for the occasional leftovers from kitty lunch. I suspect the rattlers in Arizona kept the population pretty slim.
LaVerne

why not set out a trapline? the mice are dead..nothing else will eat them and die..nothing gets hauled around and stored in battery boxes. the cost is minimal. regards, tom
tom peterson

Ed, This must be a Colorado problem as I had the exact same thing happen with my new garage and new to me TD. At the time I think my hood was closed, offering the critters a nice dark place to trey to nest. I only found the poison around the battery box - no other evidence of mice having been in the car. This has not happened again in 5 years.

By the way, I'm curious as to what needles you are running in your TD at your altitude? I am using HS's and they seem to work well at 6500 in Cortez.
A. R. Todd



"I used to install a lot of electric gate operators at airports and the like. Rodents are a big winter problem. Many of the operators require an electric purpose made heater to keep the gear oil at a good flowing temp in the winter. Rodents love it. Mice , rabbits, etc. and they can squeeze into the smallest openings. Once inside they nest where its warm and the chew the crap out of all the wiring. I once pulled the cover off one that the owner reported wasn't working. Rabbit flew out of the inside. Scared the crap out of me."

Reminds me of a snow blower I brought home from the dump. The recoil starter wouldn't pull but it had an electric starter. I plugged it in and pushed the button and all hell broke loose! The mice had nested in the flywheel and yellow jackets nested in the cooling fins. The mice scattered and the wasps wanted a piece of me. Made a good snow blower after a little clean-up.
JE Carroll

Maybe the mice are jealous and are trying to kill the TD.
Mike TD/TA

Finaly back and the stuff is called MICE MAJIC. come in little packets, found at hardware stores. Seems to work for me.
Tom Maine (TD8105)

This thread was discussed between 04/05/2012 and 09/05/2012

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