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MG TD TF 1500 - No sale gray

I don't think this one will bring the reserve.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-MG-TD-Roadster-Convertible-Books-Records-Receipts_W0QQitemZ4567182759QQcategoryZ31858QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Tom

I think this one would sell "buy it now" at $12,450. Flame away. Just amusing myself.
Tom

I think this one would sell "buy it now" at $12,450. Flame away. Just amusing myself.

Might help it I included the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-MGTD-CA-car-Good-running-condition-orig-owner_W0QQitemZ4567157161QQcategoryZ31858QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Tom

First one didn't sell the first time (whats with that Car Number?)

"Everything is original".... except it is "white"?
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Also, the white one is a 1952
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Tom,

"Flame away. Just amusing myself." Perhaps you are in the wrong group.

Try the MG Flame Wars:
http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=&mode=tlist&subject=106

I think I can speak for the majority of the members here, we are only interested in the cars.
Ron Boisvert

Actually, I think it is nice if you are looking for a flamboyant example. It has a lot of neat accessories (steering wheel, spare tire cover, spark plug holder) and unusual body paint and instrument panel overlay.

I wonder where they got the strange engine paint, and why someone would go through all that work w/o taking the body tub off the frame (at least I think they didn't) finally, the front suspension was overhauled and partly painted, and someone is really proud of that!

It's like any car, someone did what they thought was important, did what they liked, and is now selling it. Some of us spend a lot of time getting a car to better than showroom new (and that can be a good thing, because it preserves the car for future enjoyment) but if we all did the same thing to our cars, we would lose a lot of history because modifying them was a hobby unto itself. To each his own...

My car will be done someday. I wonder if some future owner will say "That DPO really messed up the car when he switched out the rear end to 4.3:1" or "Why did that DPO cad plate all those fastners and leave them shiny instead of painted like the factory did?"

I enjoyed looking at this one on ebay.

dave
Dave Braun

Dave- I agree with you on this one. The basic car is correct. Moss sold the turned dash panels years ago. The engine paint looks similar to the early TC color, which was supposedly left over from painting tanks in WWII. What do you TC experts think? George
George Butz

Gordon,
On the Silver one they used the engine number as "car" number. It's barely readable on the vehicle ID-plate on the toolbox. Pity you can't read the actual number.
Well gentlemen, I have to confess I truly like the Silver one (wonder if it is the real Silver Streak Grey). And one day when I'll start restoring mine, it will resemble this one very closely. Okay I'm not that fond of the engine turned dash and the red tonneau cover, but I find a few modifications very tastefully done.
Cheers,
Nick, 52TD (Silver Streak)/63midget (BRG)...8^)
D.G.J. Herwegh

On the grey car what is that third gauge from the left? vacuum?

Ted

Ted

An older fellow once told me that "silver streak gray" was a metalic that would quickly turn to a weird shade of green. I suppose modern paints would lay down a more stable color.

dave
Dave Braun

Rest assured, that is not Silver Streak Gray. Original Silver Streak Gray does indeed have a greenish tinge to it. The color on an original, unrestored valve cover is somewhat similar. The 53 that I picked up recently is an original Silver Streak Gray car that has been repainted black. The black paint has peeled off of a number of areas so that the original color can be seen. One of these days I'll get some color images of the gray with a color chart in the image.
Bud Krueger

Ok, youse guys, what's wrong with this one? I predict 16K. Am I way high? Where else are you gonna find one that low mileage?
Tom

Link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1952-MG-TD-ORIGINAL-LOW-MILES-RUNS-DRIVES-NOT-53-51_W0QQitemZ4567573859QQcategoryZ31858QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Tom

Didn't sell last time (or is being re- ebayed) and was in Ohio.
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Bud, I would love to see pics of the new car. Please post when you've got some on hand. That Silver Streak color has always intriqued me because the metalic paints were unstable, and there are so many ways to present a grey... warm, cool, green, dark, light... a really hard color to nail down. (I'll probably be saying the same thing about ivory soon) I'm not a paint or color expert by any means, but colors can shift exposed to air, or exposed to another layer of paint. But just as often, they can be sealed in, and when exposed by removing the layer of paint, they can be pristine. Good luck with this one!

Tom! Nothing wrong with it (the orange or red one) but I do seriously doubt the milage. With the age of these cars, and replacing instruments, and unknowledgeable sellers, you kind of get to the point where I think Ron often is. i.e. look for the most complete car and plan on rebuilding it. I don't seee a lot on this car that would make me want to keep it 'unrestored' because so many things (wheels, top, valve cover, interior, fuel lines) have been fiddled with. Without a wood report I'm sticking to my thinking that it is impossible to restore a car cost effectively that you have to pay more than about $8 or 9k with everything there, because to make it really nice you have to take everything apart anyway. I'm the one, remember who had already painted the darn gearbox, and then turned my attention to the bell housing. I was shocked to be rebuilding the gearbox just because some bearing keepers were found in the sludge collector in the bell housing! So surprises lurk everywhere. I'm glad though that I did, it was kind of fun, and as I always say, better than a round of golf at a sw*nky club. (no offense to our golfing friends!) As a driving example, it fits the same mold as my car has since 1979. Drive the heck out of it, fix what breaks, and one day take it apart.


Warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Dave, this is the second originally Silver Streak Gray car that I've acquired. Both had been repainted and the original color only showed in a few splotches. However, both showed the greenish tinge. Metallic colors can be exceptionally difficult to define. Before retirement, I was part of a committee at NIST looking into ways to specify such colors. Hopefully, I can find enough of the original to get a close match. At the least, I may be able get a good sRGB match.
Bud Krueger

Bud,
Mine too is repainted (first in blue than another layer of black slapped on) but where the paint flakes off, you can also see a green-ish tinge. I first thought it was discoloured because of some sort of chemical reaction with the other layers of paint on top of it but no: when I removed the vehicle ID-plates on the toolbox, the same green appeared.
I think it will be difficult to obtain an exact colour-match.... Nevertheless I think this slightly green-ish- grey is a perfect match with the bright red upholstery and red radiator slats. (Have seen photos of one on red disc-wheels too !!!) Quite a contrast to all red/green/ivory TD's...8^)
Cheers,
Nick, 52TD/63Midget.
D.G.J. Herwegh

Thanks, Dave. I guess it really doesn't matter at this point how many miles the car has, as age and the elements, protected as it might have been, still do take their toll. It is a mystery to me how such a worthy toy can be used so little, even if the mileage quoted isn't accurate. This car does call to me, as it needs just the right amount of fiddling to make it fun. But I'd never pay much over what it's bringing now, so someone else gets to have their fun. As if I don't have enough fiddling to do around here now, hehe.

I have been extremely lucky in my auto purchases, having never got a "lemon", at least in my eyes. But I'm the guy that likes to do everything he can to make sure he gets there, instead of sitting by the side of the road. I've also been amazingly lucky with having breakdowns near home (the one that sticks out in memory is..broken float, coasted into the driveway at 4:30 AM), when they could have happened hundreds of miles away. I'd like to continue that tradition.

And most of you guys that post here seem like kindred souls, I'm not trying to make enemies, just trying to motivate and learn from your comments. Ron, they may have to keep us at opposite sides of the room. :)
Tom

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