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MG TD TF 1500 - tank liners

Having had some great advice regarding my wanting to de-rust the car fuel tank does anyone know where I can get Red-kote in the U.K.to line it afterwards?
JK Mazgaj

Got my own answer. Apparently Damon Industries have no distributor in the U.K. Due to being inflamible very expensive to ship so will have to search out something else.
JK Mazgaj

Let me know JK if you find a suitable alternative as I am looking to do the same job. Thanks Darryl
D Lamb

Many years ago, I cleaned my tank with a diluted mix of some kind acid, I rinsed it out, quickly dried it out in the warm Summer sun and sealed it. I used some kind of sealer which I bought at a local aircraft supply house. The sealer is/was used in planes with metal fuel tanks. The aircraft used only unleaded gas in those days as we all have to do now. Aircraft tanks are regularly exposed to condensation due to rapid changes in temperatures in normal operation. After about 25 plus years, I find no indication of rust or deterioration of the sealant in my TD's tank using today's regular grade 10% ethanol unleaded fuel.
FWIW, this is one possibility that might be worth exploring.
Jim Merz

JK,
I sure that you have seen this link which shows the innards of a fuel tank,
http://www.ttalk.info/FuelTankInnards.htm

Bud, thanks for 10 years of your very helpfull web site ~!!!!!!!!!!

Steve
Steve Wincze

Frost sell a suitable liner material in the UK.
Dave H
Dave Hill

Bill Hirsch Tank sealant is alcohol proof and should be available, as it is used to seal aircraft fuel tanks. Metal tanks not fuel bladders. It makes a very thin film inside the tank and does not come away from the metal in time as do some of the Urethane type sealers.

Try an aircraft supply.
....CR
C.R. Tyrell

Gentlemen - Be real careful with any lining/sloshing product to rust proof your tank. What works well today, may very well dissolve or slough off ten, fifteen, or 20 years in the future when the put god know what in the fuel of the day that will strip the lining off the tank. 20 years ago, when I restored out TD, I used an aircraft sloshing compound that was highly recommended at the time and it appeared to work well. Fast forward to about 5 years ago, when we got alcohol in our fuel and the sloshing compound dissolved and acted like a glue to the valve disks in the fuel pump and the needle valves in the carburetors. I had to have the tank stripped of everything inside and out to get rid of the sloshing compound. I would up having a heavy zinc phosphate treatment to the tank, which gave an almost furry texture to interior and exterior of the tank, which I was told would absorb the oils in gasoline, protecting the tank from rust. So far, so good. Check back in with me in about another 20 years. Cheers - Dave
D W DuBois

Dave. I don't think there is a need to be so concerned. The big change when ethanol was added was that there was suddenly the addition of a significant amount of polar solvent (ethanol) to a non polar base (gasoline). The ethanol is only just compatible with the gasoline. Its also very compatible with water. The fact is that many seal and gasket materials, etc., that were suitable for a non polar liquid like gasoline, were suddenly also exposed to ethanol, and perhaps more water, to which they have much less resistance. In addition there are all the other differences in combustion characteristics, but they are another and mostly separate issue. What I am getting at is that the damage has been done, we have both polar and non polar components in the fuel already, essentially there is nowhere else to go, other than adding more of the ethanol, or perhaps another alcohol, but the consequences on chemical resistance are essentially the same. i spent years wirking on the resistance of polymers to fuel blends.
Dave H
Dave Hill

Thanks again for contributions. I've order some phosphoric acid for derusting as the first action. I've also got daughter visiting U.S. in end April and a sister due here from Canada about the same time. So exploring possibility of them get me some Red-Kote.Also Damon's have advised that they've a powder version available that when acetate is added works. Powder non flammable so transport risk removed. Anyone U.S./Canada side seen this?
JK Mazgaj

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