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MG TD TF 1500 - TDII Hub Cap Medallion
Good Morning Gentlemen (I say this since I am not aware of any lady participating in this forum - am I wrong?) Anyway, last evening I bought, through EBay, a chrome and black medallion of which looks as though it could be fitted to the hubcap. Deep in my memory is a comment (some book on restoration?) that the Mark II TD's were fitted with this medallion on the spare wheel cap. The TD in question is very late in the production run (I only know of one later) and has the chrome radiator grill. Can anyone confirm, or destroy my belief that this is correct and that I have found what I have searched for for many years? Best regards Ian Bowers |
IanB |
I believe there was a white/black MG medallion on the spare tire hubcap! Bit larger then the rad badge. (Wasn't this also on on the TF?) |
gblawson(gordon) |
Thanks; my knowledge of the TF is only based on the wire wheel set up. And that is quite different. This is for the chromed steel hub cap which is placed on the spare. IanB |
IanB |
Ian - Are you saying that you have a MKII and that you have needed this for your car? If you have a MKII and it is a later one, my understanding is that they did have the large medallion in black and white and the spare tire hubcap. I think they may have also had the MKII plate on the rear bumper. Can you post a picture of the medallion you purchased? Congrats on your find! Jeff |
Jeff |
1953 TD 29890 XPAG/30212 22381 29128 8091 LHD MG RED RED TOM BALUTIS PLEASANTON CA U.S.A. 1953 TD 29913 XPAG/TD2/30266 22381 29151 8153 LHD IVORY RED EDDIE DAVIS TUSCALOOSA AL USA 1953 TD 29914 XPAG/TD2/30267 22381 LHD IVORY ? RED? LEE TYSON NEWARK DE U.S.A. 1953 TD ...... 29915 XPAG/TD2/ 22381 THE LAST TD BUILT IN AUG 1953 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN |
gblawson(gordon) |
Ian; Pictured is the emblem I believe you refer to. It was used on the late TD Mark II cars and continued into the TF production run-only on the spare tire. Not often seen though Moss still lists it as 121-040. Does the car you dealing with have the plinth and Mark II badge on the rear bumper? Seems to be the hardest part to find-some say less than 200 cars so equipped. Dan Craig TD/C21793
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Dan Craig |
I have a 1955 TF (1250) with wire wheels. The "spinner" which holds the spare tire to the rear mount has a medallion like the one pictured above (Dan Craig message)mounted in the center. RUSS YOUNG |
D R Young |
Saw one of those at my mechanics in his 'badge' box... it was from Moss? |
gblawson(gordon) |
This is the hub cap badge The car has a full set of Mark II badges including on the rear bumper, and is RH drive TD/C 29438 born 17 July 1953. (Not as late as I thought!). The badge wh8ich Dan has posted looks very like a radiator badge. This is definitely a hub cap badge. Now if I can find how to post an image ... the EBay item number is 310090894594 |
Ian Bowers |
Ah, now I know!! IanB |
Ian Bowers |
And the engine TD3/29885 |
Ian Bowers |
Ian: That is simply a standard MG TD hubcap badge that does not have the center painted red. It is not a MkII or TF hubcap badge. I will post a pic of mine shortly. Larry |
L Karpman |
Ian: here's a pic of the TD MkII/TF spare tire hubcap badge. Larry |
L Karpman |
And is that hub cap badge larger the the same ones on your regular hubcaps? I was told the black/white larger one was for the spare tire hubcap... it wouldn't be a rad badge as it isn't cream/brown...unless it was something from a later car? The TD3 on the engine should be a clincher for being a MKII? |
gblawson(gordon) |
Thanks, clearly there is a 'difference'! All the hub cap badges I have seen to date have been simple unchromed zinc based die casts, which need the inset painting. It was the plating which set my mind stirring about a note in some manual (restore/history, can't remember which) You are a great source of info. IanB |
Ian Bowers |
I don't think any hub cap badges were ever chromed...and I believe they were cast aluminum (at least mine polished up like aluminum)! The ebay one is just another regular hub cap one and probably a repro from Moss and they are $8.95! |
gblawson(gordon) |
Image I posted is a hubcap badge-short heavy mounting post meant to be secured with a cotter. Same thing as pictured on Larry's car. Late Mark II's did have a black and white radiator emblem-had a threaded mounting post same as cream and brown version. Dimensionally smaller than the hubcap badge. Dan Craig |
Dan Craig |
Larry, I am impressed by your use of the correct period Lucas reversing lights on the rear of your TD. I have an identical Lucas light fitted by the first owner on my TF, but I have not seen a red lense before. Is this a rare accessory or something you have come up with? Cheers, Matthew. |
Matthew Magilton |
My reversing light (Lucas) has a different clear lense.....
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gblawson(gordon) |
Matthew: The light on the right is a Lucas 494 Reversing Lamp, and the light on the left is a Lucas 494 Rear fog lamp. Both are period correct accessories to my knowledge, and the red lens on the fog lamp is as sold by Lucas. Cheers Larry |
L Karpman |
Thank you Larry, I had not come across the rear fog light before. Nice luggage Gordon. Maybe we should have a gallery called midget Backsides?? Cheers, Matthew. |
Matthew Magilton |
Gordon: Your reversing lamp is different because it is not a Lucas 494 lamp. The 494 does not have the plinth at the top as yours does, and is shaped differently. I checked my Lucas Master Catalog (1945-1960) and your lamp does not show. So, it must have been introduced after 1960. I'll try to get a number on it from another source. Cheers Larry |
L Karpman |
It was added during the 1969 rebuild!
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gblawson(gordon) |
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