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Triumph TR6 - A type OD angle drive for spedo

My spedo stopped working last summer and I think it is the angle drive that is pooched. I plan on pulling the tranny cover off soon when the garage gets a little warmer. I was told that you can buy just the guts of the angle drive. I have looked for it but do not see a supplier who sells the inside only. I am not excited to buy another one as it sells up here in Canada for $98.00 and LittleBritishCar Company (Detroit) has it for $33.96. This is a sore point with me that has been going on for many years and I have ranted about this great difference in pricing in the past. I thought the price spread had become less not more.

there is absolutely no way that a MOSS part bought from the same warehouse in California needs to be 3 times more expensive. This is rip off in my opinion.

OK got that out......Does anyone know where or if I can buy just the guts of the angle drive?

Thanx
Rick

Rick Crawford

If you need it sent to you I'm game
DON KELLY

Thanks Don. Very generous of you. I have dealt a lot with The chap in Detroit in the past when doing the restore. My problem is I do not travel anymore. There is no $ exchange anymore to speak of. It would cost me shipping, duty, and local HST tax. I will contact him and see what it might cost me. I know I could have it shipped to you or even my dad.
PS Don, I will not be coming down to FL to drive my dad home....long story.
Rick Crawford

I understand Rick,
Please take care of yourself
DON KELLY

Will do Don.

You are the man in the know. Have you heard of the guts of the drive being available?

Rick
Rick Crawford

Since I never had an OD
Not really in my sights.
Have you checked with the OD specialist
DON KELLY

Rick, is the angle drive different for the OD Tranny? Is this what you need...

Doug Baker

Another angle:-)

Doug Baker

That is it Doug. I ordered one from LBC company. Having it sent to my dad down in FL. He will bring it home Mid April.

Hopefully this is the problem:)

Rick
Rick Crawford

Rick,
Sorry that I did not see post earlier. Mine may become surplus if I'm able to get the Toyota 5 speed. Of course, don't know how the speedometer cable will attach to that transmission so may need it after all!!
db
Doug Baker

Rick- Did you talk with these folks about it?
http://www.quantumechanics.com/categories.php?op=newindex&catid=12
DON KELLY

Don
Just sent an inquiry.
Rick
Rick Crawford

Fingers crossed
DON KELLY

Rick

I searched for the guts with no success when I needed one a few years back. I tried repairing mine with no success either. Lasted about 500 miles.

I am going to Flint Mi the weekend after this one. No promises but I might be able to pick it up for you if want it earlier and you can get it near Port Huron.

I trust you pulled the speedo cable and inspected it to ensure it wasn't broken. That has been a source of problem as well. I highly doubt it will be in the transmission.
Michael Petryschuk

Hi Mike
Thanks for the info. I have not had success finding it either.

Actually have not looked at anything yet. I think I will be starting today to pull the tunnel cover off. I installed the angle drive way back in 2001 and it lasted till last summer without any service being done to it. Well over 500 miles on mine!
Thanks for the offer Mike but I ordered one and sending it to Florida for my dad to bring home. Look at my posts above re price difference between Canada and US.
See you this summer eh?

Rick
Rick Crawford

Hi Rick

I did notice the price difference and I agree that there is no justification for such a large difference.

But being an importer in my business I can attest to the pain in the A** it is to get stuff across the border. If you use a broker they charge what I consider to be ridiculous fees and if you do the clearing yourself it takes time and effort which has cost associated with it and you need to be familiar with the procedures so you don't break any rules. What amazes me is that brokers base their fees on the value of the shipment when in fact it takes the same amount of effort to clear a $10 shipment as a $100000 order. It is crazy and not logical yet it continues to work that way. Broker fees become significant if the shipment is small. I would expect a company that inventories and distributes parts in Canada would bring in large shipments thus the brokerage would be a very minor add on to the cost but I am sure that the local suppliers use this to justify significantly higher charges here.

I have found though if you can ship the part US post all you get charged is GST on receipt and I think a small fee for the transaction. I insist on it for any small orders I do out of the US.

I hope we can get together this summer. It looks like it will be a busy one for us. My son is getting married in Oct so there will be preparations around that. We have a trip planned to Calgary the week of July 7. As in past years I would like to do an extended TR6 run into the US on the long weekend in August. (We have done the Allegany mountains in PA, the Adirondacks in NY and the west coast of Michigan in past years). Last year we managed to put over 6000 miles on the TR6 with the extended season Mother Nature gave us. And of course there is the business- it has been pretty busy over the past few months and I hope it continues.

If you have any thoughts on tours this year, let me know, and we can firm some plans. I've been toying with a trip to Sault Ste. Marie via the ferry and then around the bay through Sudbury but I am not sure if this year is a good year for it with the other stuff. I would want to do the Agawa canyon train tour if we go.

Talk to you soon.
Michael Petryschuk

Michael- The low country of S. Carolina is pretty too!

DON KELLY

Weird... Cheryl and I plan the same trip but it was a trip just around Georgian Bay via the "big canoe". Cheryl works the summer and takes the winter off so obviously she can not take a week off. Maybe we could do part of the trip together.

Triple the price is, in my books, a rip off. Even if I had him ship to me, pay duties and taxes, it still would be less than the retail price up here.


Any way back to business. I took the interior apart this morning. What a pain that is just for the angle drive. What I found was unreal. There is a metal cap on one end of the angle drive that holds in-place, the spline gear that goes into the OD trany. Well the cap had come off (or was pushed out by the gear)and the the gear came out. Both items wher sitting on the tranny support brace. I have no idea how they sat there for the rest of the summer and did not just fall to the ground. The plate had 3 tanges bent over to keep it from coming out of its hole. 2 of the tangles had broken off. I am sure I could hold the cap in-place with metal bonding putty and keep the drive as a spare. I will put the new one in. Hopefully it will last a long time. Will clean all the electrical connections for the OD and the lock-outs on top of the tranny.

Rick
Rick Crawford

Should have put in a 5 speed

DON KELLY

Hi Don

A trip to S. Carolina for sure will be in order. I need more than a weekend to do that though as it is a good 2 days taking the kind of roads I like to take to get that far south from here. and I don't think I can string the days together this year. However next year or the year after may be the year.

Also planned future trips - the Blue Ridge Parkway through Virginia, NC and Tennessee, Deals Gap in the Smokey Mountains and many more. So much to see, so little time to do it.

Rick- amazing on the parts staying with the car. I have 20,000 miles now on the new one I installed so I think you can expect it to last a least a few years.
Michael Petryschuk

Rick-I have had the same problem on at least 3 angle drives-the cap comes off and the gear falls out.Sometimes you get lucky and the gear lands on the frame or mount. Sometimes you don't.
I either drill 4 holes around the edge and use safety wire or cut a few slots with a saw and crimp the edge.
Berry
BTP Price

Thanks for the heads up Berry. Looks like I will be putting a little metal putty on both the old and new one.

OK so what is the screw on the top for? To drip some oil into for the 2 gears? I plan on packing grease into the old one before putting the cap back in place.

Rick
Rick Crawford

Rick, FWIW, Obsolete Auto had them on in their last flyer for about $66. I got the flyer last week. The flyer sale is good untill June I think.

Rob
rw loftus

Rob
Bought in the US for $34.00 ($36.00 CDN) no taxes and about $8.00 to ground ship to FL to my father who comes home in 2 weeks.


I refuse to support highway robers.

Rick
Rick Crawford

Has the Canadian dollar slipped that much?
DON KELLY

From what I have read on other forums, the little screw does plug a hole for lubing the gears. As you have found it is a major pain to remove the tunnel to access the angle drive. The cars that came with OD from the factory had a access hole and cover. At one time Tony Rhodes was making the covers,I don't know it they are still available.
Berry
BTP Price

Don't blame you Rick. Can.$ is was trading this morning at around 98.7 cents to USD. Near par again. The only time I deal with Can. suppliers is when I need something fast. This week, oil pan gasket.

Rob
rw loftus

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