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Triumph TR6 - carbon canister refitting

Greetings all! Haven't been on in a while but and am in the process of gettingy 70 TR6 back on the road. I am stumped in trying to refit my carbon canister after removing it 2 years ago. Does anyone have a pic of how it should fit and where. I have looked up pics on the internet of TR6 engine compartments but nothing makes sense. The most logical fit is on the radiator brace as the hole line up but it is at a weird angle that I don't remember it being. Any help is appreciated!
Bill Kinney

Bill,
I think that that's where mine fits for my 71 and your bracket should be the same as mine w/o the run-on valve. There's a stud on the Radiator housing that takes the angled brace on the bracket. BTW, if you have not done so, it may be worth your while to open the cannister (it unscrews from the bottom) and refresh the activated carcoal. I washed mine in a solvent and then heated it to drive off the hydrocarbons. Also refurbished by cleaning and painting the spring, retainer, screens and cleaned the filter. Good luck.
db
Doug Baker

Wasn't it on the inner fender. Man it's been a long time since I took that off.
DON KELLY

OK Rick Crawford, tell us where the charcoal cannister goes...!!
db
Doug Baker

Mine looked like it should fit on the rad brace, but if you have two studs on the top of the bracket that holds the motor mount, I do beleave it fits best there. The studs with a nuts, hold the motor mount bracket too the motor and the canister bracket slips on the studs with nuts to hold in place. I will post a pic tomarrow.
Joe
Joe S.

I think Joe is correct on the early models. The later ones I think where on the rad bracket
DON KELLY

Gotta see the pictures Joe!!
db
Doug Baker

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6001.jpg
J Salbego

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6003.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6009.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6014.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6006.jpg
J Salbego

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/Tr6_easyrider/CanisterBracketMounting71TR6006.jpg
I made one change in the routing of the hoses. The first plastic tee from the valve cover was turned 90 deg. too the right from originial. This seem to put less stress on the hose to the rear carb. Also the fan is 16' Perma-cool, from Jegs.com
J Salbego

Looks good, Joe - that's not where the canister sits on my 75 - over by the radiator as someone mentioned earlier. I see you have the deep K&N filters - looks like you have plenty of room with the early style manifold. Anyone want to buy a set? They won't fit with the late manifold, and the place I bought them won't take them back... I know this board is basically for '71 owners!

Cheers
Alistair
Alistair

Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner!!! Thanks Joe! I did not even think of it bfitting there but it is perfect! Really appreciate the help.

Bill/Indy
Bill Kinney

Alistair, Could't you just buy the smaller K/N elements, shorter bolts and cut the spacers to fit.
Lets hear for 1975 TR6s. :-)
Cheers
Joe
Joe S.

Joe,
Your charcoal cannister bracket is different than mine!! Mine just has a bar across the back at about a 35-40 degree angle to the vertical piece of the bracket to which the encirling ring is attached. Your appears to have a comlementary set of holes to fit the motor mount. Mine fits the stud at the radiator. My TR-6 is a 71. Had some difficulty finding this bracket. Hope that it's the correct one for my year car.
db
Doug Baker

Doug- I think yours is for a late model.
DON KELLY

Doug, This is the one that was on the car when I purchased it in '73. I agree with Don, you may have a later bracket. And I believe Bill Kinney has the same bracket as mine. How did you determine the bracket you have is the right one?
Joe
Joe S.

You know who is awfully quiet. Rick C. Anybody heard from him recently. He's Mr. Stock .He should know.
DON KELLY

Well, I'm not necessarily known around here as "Mr. Stock," but can tell you that the first and third picture from the J Salbego 25 April, 21:48:56 post shows the correct factory supplied bracket and cannister for the 70, 71 and 72 TR6s fitted with carbs.
SteveP

Guys, I'd be the last person on Earth to doubt Steve, BUT...it's my understanding that the 72 and up had the anti run-0n valve at the bottom of hte bracket. I have one of those too and it does not fit my 71. I'll try to get a couple of photos of my bracket and y'all can tell me where I'm wrong. Maybe I need a new bracket!!
db
Doug Baker

Doug- How late of a 71 do you have?

Hey, when did they add the upload picture on the bottom of the page???
DON KELLY

Don,
Date of manufacture is Jun 71 (CC65881L), so, it's almost a '72!! On our list of 71's, I'm last in line!! Some peculiar attributes include the same 4 way connection at the gas tank that Rick Crawford has. It also had/has wiring adjacent to the interior light that probably is for the seat belt warning but did not have the buzzer. There are 4 purple wires terminated together. Dan Masters did not know for what they were intended. There may be other model year 72 attributes that I have not noted because I did not know as not being 71, but the charcoal filter bracket that I have was offered as from the early cars and indeed, the one that I've decribed as having the anti run-on valve is quite different with additional hoses, wiring and etc.
db
Doug Baker

Gotta see the pictures Doug!! :-))
Joe S.

Joe, and all...OK, here's a go at uploading photo. One is the drawing from TRF's catalog showing my bracket. The other is a photo of my bracket after cleaning and painting. You'll see that it's quite different from Joe's bracket.
db
Doug Baker

2nd pboto
Doug Baker

OK, so I'm suffering operator error. Somewhere here are about a dozen photos of the bracket for the charcoal cannister. I uploaded 2...several times, or at least tried to. If anyone can point me to wherever they went, I'd be most grateful. Thanks.
db
Doug Baker

I just put mine back on after roughly a 2 year rebuild program. I followed the views shown in the Moss Motors catalog to refresh my memory on the installation. After I bought this '74 a few years ago, I recharged the cannister by taking it apart and cleaning it out and used activated charcoal for fish tank filters (bought at WalMart)to refill it. And unless a previous owner had done the same thing, it looked exactly like what I dumped out of it. Sure beat $120 for a new one.
w lobodinsky

W.Lobodinsky, I did the same thing, but after reflection, decided to "reactivate" my charcoal and took what I had purchased back to the aquarium shop for a refund. No cost!!
db
Doug Baker

Ok guys, I'm gonna try this again. the file is compressed. If it makes it, you'll see the charcoal cannister bracket along with some other miscellaneous parts. Note that the bracket is quite different than Joe's bracket.
db

Doug Baker

Yeah, success!@!!@ Original Image was too large.
db
Doug Baker

Well that's a new one on me. It is definitely not the late bracket and it is definitely different from all of the other early ones that I have seen (or at least noticed). After seeing the picture, decided to look on the Moss site and sure enough the illustration they have matches your bracket. Who knows, it may be one of those alternate fitment situations that BL pulled from time to time or a superceding replacement from the other early bracket.
SteveP

Doug- Are those the gauge rings in the photo?
DON KELLY

Don,
Yeah. I removed (disassembled) all the gauges; cleaned the rims (glass beaded), Cleaned all the gunk, disintegrated O rings, silcone stuff etc from the rings and primed and painted. I obtained new O rings from a source that escapes me just now, but still have the contact data somewhere. Cleaned &/or replaced the glass, cleaned and lubed the working parts as best I could and reassembled for reinstalltion when the dash goes back in. There's a website that will repair Smith gauges, but it's quite costly....like $85.00 to overhaul the Speedometer that I figured I'd try to do them myself. May be a mistake, but we'll one day (maybe) find out when I get this sucker back together. You'll also note the hold down pieces for the windscreen and the snap retainers for the tanneau cover were here somewhere, probably out of the photo. Going to school on other's experiences, I tried to photodocument everything.

The bracket was cleaned with bead blasting and powder coated then fitted with SS hardware. Looks pretty good if I do say so myself, but then it's just sitting there and not doing anything yet.
Doug Baker

Are those Chrome?I thought 71 had Black bezels? Maybe our id plate is a forgery. Later car??
DON KELLY

Don,
What you see is that they're cleaned to the metal. I bead blasted everything, then primed and painted a flat black or more satin than flat I guess. But yep, they're painted black and stored away awaiting reinstallation. Now that I've figured out (sort of) the picture thing, I'll hunt up the painted version to show you.

I also have a new ID plate (CC plate), but at Rich Crawford's admonition, the same data will be stamped onto it when I install in on the B post. The paint and interior code won't match what's there, but what the heck.

db
Doug Baker

Don, Rick, Rod,
Ya'll've asked for photos. If these are small enough to upload, here's a couple of the state she's now in...!!
db

Doug Baker

Had to do them one at a time. Size limit is really small apparently.
db

Doug Baker

Another one.
db

Doug Baker

Doug- did you know you got rust on the floor boards. After you do yours I'll fly you out to do mine.
DON KELLY

Drape in the garage!!!!! Nice touch Doug... :-)
Joe S

Hi Bill I reassembled a 1972 last year This is where the Charcoal canister goes Picture included Regards John



John O'Meara

Doug, If you are looking for the correct bracket, this ones on e-bay. 260115138708.
Joe.
Joe S

Ok Bill,here's the definitive answer.

PUT IT ANY DANG PLACE YOU WANT !!!!
DON KELLY

Joe...drapes..well YEAH!! Don't want just anyone peeking in:) But ypu do have to launder them more often!!

John O'Meara, I can't really see where you cannister is mounted. I assume the radiator support, but it's not clear. Could you move around to the other side of the car and get a flash shot of that again??
db

Don,
I know about the rust. You should've seen the brake booster before I had it overhauled. Talk about rust. It's now powdered coated gloss black. The master cylinder leaked at some point stripping all the paint and good ole friendly oxidation followed soon thereafter. That's the major work on this body, replacing the forward piece of the driver's floor pan. The rest is surface rust for the most part. I thought that you were past this point in your restoration. See image for booster before shot.
db

Doug Baker

Hi Doug Yes I will take some detailed photos of the bracket and post on the forum Give me a day or so to take them and grab one of my teenagers to post them! Regards John P.S. I did a total frame off nut and bolt restoration trying to keep as original as possible so let me know if you need any other photos etc.
John O'Meara

This thread was discussed between 23/04/2007 and 07/05/2007

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