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Triumph TR6 - Dan Masters - HELP!

Dan (et all).

The strangest thing....Ive been doing little things to the LBC all winter with no problems and noticed the relay switch for what i thought were turn signals had a broken tab..so i ordered another and put it in. Now I have eneamic turn signals, the side lights and rear lights when main lights are on do not light and the hazard flasher flashs very fast and weakly...

Before replacing the switch everything worked except the hazards (not even the switch lit up) Now they work ?

In addition, i no longer have lighting to my gauges which worked before too!

I should add that I added a relay circuit for driving lamps but that is fed from battery and its switch from the fuse box (spare tab on the green circuit)

The front bumper is off for rechroming but I did use clips to complete the ground for those signals so the test was under normal conditions.

any suggestions? Are bulbs potentially wrong sizes and cause draw to be too high?

wow...just when i thought i had everything finished too!

any suggestions appreciated.

bob


What is going on?
Bob Craske

BOb- Don't remember what year your 6 is. Where was the relay?
Don K.
DON KELLY

It was the two connector relay that sits between the fuse box and left inner fender well (76 tr6)

thanks

bob
Bob Craske

The turn signal flasher is in the passenger (right) side footwell and the hazard flasher on the left inner fender. You may have replaced the hazard flasher with a turn signal. I don't know why it would affect all those lights, but a turn signal is rated to flash 2 bulbs, so a load of 4 bulbs could make it flash much faster. The DPO of my '74 had a turn signal flasher in the hazard spot and it didn't work at all.

Jeff
Jeff Fetner

I think there are 2 ,two connector relays for your year. One is for the flashers and one is for the turn signals (this one for my 71 was behind the glove box). Did you replace the appropriate relay with the correct replacement?
One caveat, I know squat about electrics and Dan is probable rolling around with laughter right now. Anybody else with this one?
Don
DON KELLY

Sorry Jeff, Your response hadn't come thru when i did mine. I didn't mean to step on your Shoes!
Don
DON KELLY

No worries Don - the connection over here is very slow. And the more ideas the better - at least we agreed! How 'bout it Bob - were we on the right track?

Jeff
Jeff Fetner

Well you were partially correct, first i was even more brain dead the the DPO because I relaced the original relay with a turn indicator relay because that was what was there...guess what, it should have been the hazard relay and so by accident i had one spare (wrong shape but right relay) and put that on. Now i had hazards almost working, turn signal working, lights working and still no marker or gauge lights...well back the the masters book...praying i didnt have to remove the underdash covers i had just put in last week...looked like some poking required...but then a friend suggested it was at the source..so i pulled the red fuse leads, resanded the connectors to clean, some dialectric and voila..victory..all lights working again even hazards (which didnt last year so I am one victory up over Mr Lucas)

now to find the right shape relay, finish the wheels and pray for summer to arrive

again, thanks for all the advice :-)

bob
Bob Craske

BOb- Is your newrelay round?
Don
DON KELLY

yes, but i have located the correct rectangular relay to replace the round one (alternative replacement unit is how it is described in Rimmer and Moss books)It works fine..but doesnt fit the clip, so being fussy i will replace it.

bob

Bob Craske

Bob
I am in need of the correct rectangular relay also. So what I read from you is it is correct shape but to big to fit the clip? That sounds a bit useless/stupid. Anyone know of a source of one that is OE size and shape?
Not sure how big an area the underdash covers cover but the flasher unit mounted in same style rectangular clip is just above passenger side carpeted kick pannel.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Rick

Moss has three relays they list under miscellaneous electrical (#21), and that is where I went wrong,

The descriptions are missleading

141 740 Flasher Unit 2 terminals...sound right but is the one i ordered and is for turn flashers, not hazards

141 650 Flasher unit - Hazard is the correct relay, but is round and the clips for round relays are not available even at Rimmer Brothers

141 650 Flasher Unit Warning is listed as replacement type (this is the only one I didnt order so murphys law states it probably the correct one and is rectangular

On the other sites (VB LBC etc) the same situation arises. Only Rimmer Brothers seem to acturately describe the rectangular hazard relay, though they offer the replacement (round) type too..they list the round clip but alas, it is no longer available.

So i have ordered a rectangular one with matching clip mount (8 $) and will try it out, otherwise, the round haxard relay i have installed works (if it aint broke leave it alone?) and i may try to figure out a way to find a round clip or make one...

anyone got a round clip out there??:-)

Hope that helps a little Rick, when i get the Rimmer order I will let you know if that fits our cars...

bob
Bob Craske

Rick

the last item of 3 described at 141 650 should be described as 141 655 (perhaps is rectangular?)

Bob Craske

This thread was discussed between 19/02/2005 and 20/02/2005

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