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I've just purchased my first TR, a 1971, and I'm not at all familiar with them. Naturally, the body needs help and after looking it over, I wondered if all 71s came with the back end of the car, above the rear bumper, painted a flat black or is this some previous owners idea???
The rest of the car is a medium shade of brown.
Kyran Mackey

Welcome Kyran, The blacked out area above the bumper surrounding the tailamps is factory black. The rockers and lower rear fender skirts are as well. Brian
B.R. Horne

Hello Kyran, That lovely shade of brown is called Sienna Brown or Baby S... Brown as my wife calls it. It is color code 23. As you can tell I am also the owner of such a car,year, and color. For Ricks update ,what is your commission #?
Welcome
Don Kelly
DON KELLY

Kyran
You could not have picked a better year...'71s are taking over the world...even Dons' which was built in late '70. Kyran, you might want to read my thread TR6 DOCUMENTS.
Brian, beg to differ with you lad. It is my understanding that the lower rear wings where NOT painted black. The rockers yes. The chrome strip was the dividing line between black and body colour. Obviously agree on the rear end.

Oh Ya..Kyran...welcome to the land of insanity.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Kyran, 71s are a great year. There is no horsepower sapping pollution control. There are no rubber bumper things. The only relatively less favorable thing, compared to later years, is the seat design with the stupid seat backs that require hidden clips--I hate those. But I love my 71 Signal Red TR6!

John
JL Bryan

Thank you, one and all, for all the information. My wife doesn't like the black but this is one of the few things I can have my way :) and I like cars pretty much as when new. The commission # is CC57225 L

And before the car is back on the road, I hope I don't go too far over the sanity edge!
Kyran Mackey

Rick Crawford,

I noticed in this thread that you keep records of comission numbers??? Is this a different record from what I supplied to this BB at the home page? Do you want my comission number too?

Let's not forget the 73....nice seats, no big bumper blobs, front spoiler. Probably less power than the 71 though. They're all great looking cars.

Henry
HP Henry Patterson

Henry...WOOOOO STOP...no rumors please!
No not keeping records on any TR6..well maybe mine. In a past thread (bad servo) it was noted by me that there was a lot of 1971 TRs on this BBS and I noted year and commission numbers.
Just for fun here they are again with the additions since then.

SteveP:CC56209L July 1970
Kyran: CC57225L...OCT.???
Don K:CC58660 Nov.1970
Joe S: CC60628LO Dec. 1970.
RickC:CC62645L Sept.'71 Notice the date..(donor car)
Berry:CC63230L,Mar. 71
Jim: CC63860L,April, '71
RickC: CC65060L May '71...(now with an O at the end:)
DougB: CC65881L, Jun 71

And yes Don K it was a donor car:)
I should have left you off the list again for getting me into this:)
Rick C
Rick Crawford

"The only relatively less favorable thing, compared to later years, is the seat design with the stupid seat backs that require hidden clips--I hate those."

John,

While I agree with you that these seats are a royal pain to recover, I think they are by far the most comfortable of all the TR6 seats. In fact, I think they are the most comfortable car seats I've ever owned. I have made many trips of 15 - 18 hours at a stretch and arrived completely refreshed, ready to go some more. Compare that to the seats in my MGBGT, where 12 hours is tops before my back bows up on me and says stop.

CC61685LO, Jan '71 (OD long gone)
CC64944L, May '71
Dan Masters

I feel like a youngster with a Feb '74. I'm not obsessed with it. I don't think it's necessary to remember such trivial things like my commision number is CF19053U. It's not like I need to know this because I order TONS of parts. This makes me wonder. At some point, the UPS driver will have delivered me an entire car - piece by piece.

Don from Jersey
CF19053U, Feb '74
D Hasara

Hey- a 71 that is an older brother. I feel as if a long lost twin was reunited!
Don
DON KELLY

Kyran,

What part of Michigan are you from? If you're somewhere in S.E. Mich. you may be intersted in the local Triumph club. I'm in Waterford.

Henry
HP Henry Patterson

Hay Dan
Our 2 6s are almost twins. But maybe yours is the one with the heart transplant out of a , as my grandson use to say "ORD".
11 '71s so far.

I like the '71 seats.
John B. I had no problem with those clips at all. The "fork tongue" of the clip might need a little spreading open. They have to be moved around a little bit to make sure they line up with the hole for sure. Then with a small RUBBER mallet give them a wack. If yours keep popping out then try just to give them a wack. If no joy, try the spread thing. I found that the wack with the mallet did the trick.
Try this: Next time a goose hisses at you, wack him on the side of the head...that will smarten him up.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Rick
Add my '71 to your list. CC62976L, March of 1971. Sapphire blue.
Mike Crane

Rick,

CC61685LO is getting the Ford 302. Someday, I actually hope to have it finished.

http://www.britishv8.org/swaps/TR6ford.HTM
Dan Masters

Charlie S: CC60260LO Dec. '70
EC Smith

OK Charlie- Mine is titled as a 71 and it was 1200 before you. The person building yours must have started it in the summer and then went away on holiday. Didn't get back to finish it until winter.
Don
DON KELLY

UPDATE:


SteveP:CC56209L July 1970/1
Kyran: CC57225L...OCT.1970/1
Don K: CC58660 Nov.1970/1
Charlie S: CC60260LO Dec.'70/1 (build started May'70:)
Joe S: CC60628LO Dec. 1970/1.
Dan M: CC61685LO, Jan '71(OD long gone) To be an 'OrD:)
RickC:CC62645L Sept.'71 Notice the date..(donor car)
Mike C:CC62976L, Mar.1971
Berry:CC63230L,Mar. 71 (254 TR6s after Mikes')
Jim: CC63860L,April, '71
Dan M:CC64944L, May '71 (1084 after Jim..WOW)
RickC: CC65060L May '71...(now with an O at the end:)..116 TR6s after Dans').
DougB: CC65881L, Jun 71
TOTAL=13

Ok Henry..you caught me. I am keeping record of commission numbers. BUT only '71s.

Interesting that there are so many '71s on this BBS.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

And those posing as 71's (Wana Bees)
DON KELLY

So, from this list, my '71 is the youngest of the crowd. Since model years are typically introduced to the market before the end of the calendar year are not those actually manufactured in late 70, model 71's? Also, some of the features on mine, (don't remember what just now) manufactured in June 71 don't appear until the 72 model spec's, so when is the REAL cut off for model year???
db
Doug Baker

According to The Roadster Factory's great catalogs, Triumph made many changes (mostly in ignition advance/retard and PCV hoses) throughout the '71 model year. I think they fiddled around quite a bit and when they finally decided on the 'standard' they called that a '72.

To clarify my particulars, CC60260LO is titled as a '71 but built in December 1970. The Roadster Factory catalogs do accurately reflect my configuration but I plugged the vacuum retard hose and it runs better!

Charlie
EC Smith

Unlike all other years of TR6 production, the 1970 and 1971 model years were produced as a continuous run with no distinct break. This means that my car, despite the July 70 build, was set up as a 1971. If they were running parallel lines of the cars, whether it wound up in the RH or the LH line might have determined if it was a 1970 or 1971 in that normal transitional time frame. This could then be an explanation for the serial number overlaps that have been noted in the late 1970 and early 1971 model TR6s. All other model years had clean breaks that were in the August time frame.

This in turn probably explains why there was both a 1974 and a "1974 1/2" TR6 along with three versions of the 1974 MGB. Meeting emmission standards was tied to model year, while meeting safety standard was tied to production dates. The earliest 1974 MGBs were like the 1973 models in the exterior department, then there was the 1974 MGBs with big rubber overriders (like the 1974 1/2 TR6), followed by what was officially known as the 1974 1/2 MGB that was raised up on the suspension and had the monsterous black rubber bumpers.

SteveP

I knew Steve would clarify this.
Don
DON KELLY

Doug my '72 part is the horn relay.
Good one Steve.
My '71 has a very unique "4 way" venting system on top of the fuel tank. I have only seen it documented (no picture not even a plate item #) in the TRF blue book PLATE AR.

What was this thread about again??? Oh Ya Paint:) Even though Kyran your thread went astray, you are at least in good company.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

I appreciate the company, and considering the company, I should have no trouble getting my Tr on the road :-)By the way, Henry I'm in the western side of the state, Muskegon.
Kyran Mackey

Hi Folks

I am in a quandry, I have taken on the task of a total restore of a TR6 (the frame at the rear is totally shot). I am considering a half frame repair. The engine has 49,000 mls, and for the most part the external body panels are good. The floor pan will have to be replaced as it has been butchered. The question that I have (as the commission plate is missing)the recorded comm nunber is CF302839U, can anbody help me out with a manufactured date? The documents say 1975 but I think that the car is 1974.

Les
Les Gilholme

I'll check my comm number tonight and see where I stand in the great 71 debate!

Rick, I think I am going to get an upholstery shop to redo the insides of the seats. The covers don't have the little diamond pattern, but are otherwise in relatively good shape. The insides are mush--the webbing is shot, it looks like somebody tore some foam pillows apart and stuffed the innards inside my seat. For a little less than what TRF charges for the foams and innards,this local guy will replace all the innards and put my covers back on, so it seems like a good deal to me.

John
JL Bryan

Les, the stated commission number has too many digits. It should be CF and 5 digits, then the U. In any event, a car that is CF3xxxxU is a 1975 model year car.
SteveP

Les. I have CF31275UO and everything seems to point to it being a 1974 1/2 model year. Some pollution controls (cannister etc) but no air pump which as I understand it was the 1975/6 model. Since the car is in its winter resting place I can't check the manufacture date but it too is registered as a 1975.

Check out www.trregistry.com and this is a good all around link site http://www.cptc.org/Misc_Links.htm

SID
Sid Turner

John
Sounds good. Remember, you also want to replace the diaphram.
Rick C
Rick Crawford

Steve P, you are correct the number is CF30283U
Les Gilholme

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